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				<description><![CDATA[ So, for the last few tournaments ive attended ive been trying to make a hybrid lsit of eldar and marines, and it has had its decent success. <br /> I know its not one of the easiest races to allie with eldar (being allies of conveyance) but im giving them a shot. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> laughing seer 160<br /> 2 spirit seers 140, one has spirit stone of analtahen. 155<br /> <br /> troop<br /> 5 wraithguard 160<br /> wave serpent, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(219);'>sl</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>sc</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>hf</span> ghost walk matrix, vectored engines 170 <br /> 5 wraithguard 160<br /> wave serpent, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(219);'>sl</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>sc</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>hf</span> ghost walk matrix, vectored engines 170 <br /> 5 dire avengers 65<br /> wave serpents <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(219);'>sl</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>sc</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>hf</span> 145<br /> 5 rangers 60<br /> space marines<br /> captain, sheild eternal, artificer armor, thunderhammer (goes with centurions to tank s10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 1-2 crap) 190<br /> techmarine (boosts a ruin to 3+ cover, goes with tactical to give them some 2+ armor) 50<br /> command squad, x4 metlas, drop pod 175<br /> <br /> troop<br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> 70<br /> <br /> heavy support<br /> 3 centruions, x2 missile launchers, seargent with omni scope. 280 <br /> <br /> and im pretty sure thats it. I had like 70 points to burn, and didnt know what to spend it on, so i got a few helpfull upgrades (Moslty on uber expensive serpent) <br /> so ya, pretty unconventional list <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>, but what do yall think:? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, are your spirit sears having a sale? Is there a spirit sears robuck? Do they have a lawn in garden section? I wonder if there are any spirit sears in my local mall... just kidding. <br /> <br /> I take it you are using the Iyanden supplement. Good call on the spirit stone, so you can use voice of twilight and another sweet power. If you put that combo with a unit of scytheguard people will cry.<br /> <br /> Vectored engines could be points towards boosting your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, or getting a d-scythes on at least 1 wraithguard unit.<br /> <br /> Not an expert on marines, but why are you taking a super melee captain with a shooty unit? A cheap libby would give you psychic support, and between terminator armor and cover, they should hold up well enough. Losing some survival, but gaining points to make the rest of your army a threat.<br /> <br /> The techmarine could also hang out with the centruions, and bolster defenses to get them a better cover save. Can't they take some conversion beamer or other long range gun?<br /> <br /> The 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines are doing jack sitting in cover and camping. Scouts do it better, and sniper rifles at least have range. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c126c15efc2da152a9cbac56bdd44807.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578152/6510475.page"><b>Dr. Serling wrote:</b></a><br/>So, are your spirit sears having a sale? Is there a spirit sears robuck? Do they have a lawn in garden section? I wonder if there are any spirit sears in my local mall... just kidding. <br /> <br /> I take it you are using the Iyanden supplement. Good call on the spirit stone, so you can use voice of twilight and another sweet power. If you put that combo with a unit of scytheguard people will cry.<br /> <br /> Vectored engines could be points towards boosting your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, or getting a d-scythes on at least 1 wraithguard unit.<br /> <br /> Not an expert on marines, but why are you taking a super melee captain with a shooty unit? A cheap libby would give you psychic support, and between terminator armor and cover, they should hold up well enough. Losing some survival, but gaining points to make the rest of your army a threat.<br /> <br /> The techmarine could also hang out with the centruions, and bolster defenses to get them a better cover save. Can't they take some conversion beamer or other long range gun?<br /> <br /> The 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines are doing jack sitting in cover and camping. Scouts do it better, and sniper rifles at least have range. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> haha you know what serling im going and editing it now <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> yes iyanden supplement. Yes i really like the spirit stone because the voice of twighlight is really nasty, and the chance of getting the extra 3" run power or +1 to there armor save is just to good to pass up for 15 points. Ive never used the vectored engines before, but when you think about it, its giving my wraithguard an extra 7" move, as they will be disembarking out of the front of the serpent instead of the back. It will inhibit the serpents shooting for one turn, but i think it will be worth it. Why i have the wraithguard as plain old wraithguard is because my meta is FULL of high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>av</span> spamming people (Necrons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>, space marines, ect.) And so the extra s10 fire power helps allot. <br /> As for the marines, the biggest flaw of centurions is there lack of an incul save. so ONE vindicator blast will kill the whole squad, and i cant really put them in a reliable cover, because there range is only 24", so its really easy to stay out of there range. Which means i have to keep moving them foward. So, to give them that invul save, i gave the captain the sheild eternal, which gives him a 3++ and eternal warrior, therebye stopping vindicator nonsense. And the 2+ armor on him is a nice upgrade to. Another problem with the centurions is there lack of combat prowess. So, you get them into combat vs anything, its a stale mate, therebye stalling up a 280 point unit. so the captain is there as a counter assault unit. <br /> The techmarine could go with the centurions, and i did consider it earlier, but hes not really giving them any bonus. They already have 2+ armor, and with the captain they have s8 assault anyways. <br /> I do see your point on the scouts over the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines, but alas, i am just starting marines and dont have any. My buddy does though and if he is not using them for this tournament, i sure will be. <br /> Thanks for the relply ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:33:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ninjafiredragon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Only changes (2) I would make are:<br /> <br /> 1) make captain a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> with shield eternal and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>) or primarchs wrath (shooting 5 shots needing 2+ with master crafted S4 AP4 with shred).<br /> <br /> 2) make tact marines into scouts with sniper rifles because in the end you save a few points for the same amount of nothing. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thanks, <br /> but you cant have a command squad without a captain. :/ <br /> and ill try and borrow my friends scouts, if hes not using them. I dont have nay of my own yet...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also if this is a double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> game (some 2k are) drop the rangers and the points left over from switching to scouts is enough to buy a stalker (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>) which gives you fantastic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> for 75pts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Feb 2014 00:20:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d81b47dfb9a4f54637b4fde9fe70169b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578152/6516148.page"><b>Arbiter wrote:</b></a><br/>Also if this is a double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> game (some 2k are) drop the rangers and the points left over from switching to scouts is enough to buy a stalker (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>) which gives you fantastic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> for 75pts.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yes its doulbe force org. most here usually are. <br /> good idea with the stalker, will do. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Actually, i cant. Doulbe force org would mean i would need an extra space marine <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> and troops, which i dont have the points for. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Feb 2014 00:52:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ninjafiredragon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Eldar space marine hybrid list 2k points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Nice list. But - <br /> Change Tacsn -&gt; scouts with snipers.<br /> Serpent - why the ghost and vec?<br /> <br /> Put the Cap with the Com squad in the Pod. Not with the Centutions. Much pressure. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ sixtyten]]></author>
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