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Most of my DE lists try to avoid Deathstars and such but to be competitive I suppose I have to try and do something different.

As such this is what I came up with...

*Eldar are being played as Iyanden purely so I can give the Jetseer the Artifact!, Range is 6" better than a Shining Spear and it has Rending so I thought why not, I had 15 pts left...

As far as shooting goes the list has...

9x Dark Lances (S8, AP2, 36")
6x Bright Lances (S8, AP2, 36")
3x Star Cannon (S6, AP2, 36", Heavy 2)
5x Shuriken Cannons (S6, AP5, 24", Rending AP2, Poison, Assault 3)
2x Scatter Lasers (S6, AP6, 36", Heavy 4)
4x Splinter Cannons (SX, AP5, 36", Heavy 6)
2x Serpent Shields (S7, AP-, 60", Ignores Cover, Pinning, Assault D6+1)
10x Avenger Shuriken Catapults (S4, AP5, 18", Rending, Bladestorm AP2, Assault 2)
10x Splinter Rifles (SX, AP5, 24", Poison, Rapid Fire)
5x Splinter Pods (SX, AP5, 18", Poison, Assault 2)
1x Spear of Teutlas (S9, AP-, 18", Rending)

So 109 shots (Excluding the Serpent Shields and Rapid Fire) the vast majority of which should be in range turn 1. Mostly S6, Quite of bit of S8 and practically all of it is AP2 in some form or another, plus the random ignores cover weapons...

The Jetseer btw will be rolling on Runes of Fate attempting to get Fortune but taking Guide if he fails the first roll. If he fails the second roll as well I will just keep what he gets and take Prescience. I can TL the War Walkers and the Vypers (I think this would be best) without too much of a problem so quite a bit of the shooting (which matters) will be twin linked...

Only concern I have is not having Holo-Fields on the Eldar Vehicles, then again if I start behind a building or in area terrain I should be okay.


HQ
Baron Sathonix
Jetseer - Spear of Teutlas


Troops
5x Warriors - Venom (2x SC, FF)
5x Warriors - Venom (2x SC, FF)
5x Dire Avengers - Wave Serpent (SL, SC)
5x Dire Avengers - Wave Serpent (SL, SC)


Fast Attack
3x Vyper Jetbikes - 3x Star Cannon, 3x Shuriken Cannon
Beastpack - 4x Beastmaster, 20x Khymerae


Heavy Support
1x Ravager (3x DL, FF)
1x Ravager (3x DL, FF)
1x Ravager (3x DL, FF)
3x War Walkers (6x BL)


Just threw some dice to get a feel for the list. Managed to kill 3 riptides in first turn (assuming I got first turn) which is a damn sight better than I manged in a game last night where I only killed 2 all game with my more fun list...

I want to use the list in tournaments going forwards.

What do you guys think? Viable? Changes to be made?

Before I go out and buy the few bits I dont already have I thought I would open it up to the guys in the know!!!


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Also, why so many lances? There's only so much heavy armour on the table at any given time and unless your meta is full of LR spam, I don't see the point.

I'd take Scatterlasers on those War Walkers, since your AT is already well taken care of by your Ravagers.

Also, those Vypers aren't very effective. They'll either be wasting those BL shots or those SC shots, because they have wastly different target preferences. Mixing roles is usually a bad idea, but here it's especially so. If you're dead set on running Vypers, take them dual shuriken cannons or SL/SC combo. Starcannon + Shuriken Cannon also works, if you really want to keep that AP2 theme you're going for.

Although I'd ditch them altogether and get something else for the points. Like Warp Spiders or another Venom with Warriors, and with the rest of the points I'd get the Shard and some other upgrades for my other units. Maybe even a min bike squad for extra scoring.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578221/6512242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578221/6512242.page GMT
Fearless on the Beastpack is likely a good idea though. i will have a look into that...

On a more personal note I am a big fan of AP2. I prefer to deny saves rather than hope for loads of wounds from rolling 1's or 2's.

Looking at the list the only place I could save 25 pts would be by dropping the Flickerfields off the Ravagers...

Grisly Trophies is another option...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578221/6512254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578221/6512254.page GMT