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2000 Pts - Codex: Necrons Roster

HQ: Overlord (2#, 370 pts)
1 Overlord, 370 pts ((C:NE, pg. 30); Infantry; Warscythe; Mindshackle Scarabs; Phylactery; Sempiternal Weave; Tesseract Labyrinth; Resurrection Orb; Tachyon Arrow; Phase Shifter; Upgrade to Phaeron; Ever-Living; Independent Character; Reanimation Protocols; Relentless; Warlord)
1 Catacomb Command Barge ((C:NE, pg. 52); Chariot; Gauss Cannon; Quantum Shielding; Living Metal; Sweep Attack; Symbiotic Repair; Fearless; Hammer of Wrath; Jink; Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped, Skimmer))

Troops: Warriors (20#, 260 pts)
20 Warriors, 260 pts ((C:NE, pg. 33); Infantry; Gauss Flayer; Reanimation Protocols)

Troops: Warriors (20#, 260 pts)
20 Warriors, 260 pts ((C:NE, pg. 33); Infantry; Gauss Flayer; Reanimation Protocols)

Troops: Warriors (13#, 271 pts)
12 Warriors, 271 pts ((C:NE, pg. 33); Infantry; Gauss Flayer; Reanimation Protocols)
1 Ghost Ark ((C:NE, pg. 53); Gauss Flayer Array (each side); Quantum Shielding; Living Metal; Repair Barge; Jink; Vehicle (Open-topped, Skimmer))

Heavy Support: Doom Scythe (1#, 175 pts)
1 Doom Scythe, 175 pts ((C:NE, pg. 50); (DFTS, pgs. 60 & 70); Vehicle (Flyer); Death Ray; TL Tesla Destructor; Living Metal; Skyfire; Supersonic)

Heavy Support: Doom Scythe (1#, 175 pts)
1 Doom Scythe, 175 pts ((C:NE, pg. 50); (DFTS, pgs. 60 & 70); Vehicle (Flyer); Death Ray; TL Tesla Destructor; Living Metal; Skyfire; Supersonic)

Troops: Immortals (10#, 170 pts)
10 Immortals, 170 pts ((C:NE, pg. 34); Infantry; Gauss Blaster; Reanimation Protocols)

Heavy Support: Doomsday Ark (1#, 175 pts)
1 Doomsday Ark, 175 pts ((C:NE, pg. 48); Doomsday Cannon; Gauss Flayer Array (each side); Quantum Shielding; Living Metal; Jink; Vehicle (Open-topped, Skimmer))

Fast Attack: Canoptek Scarabs (9#, 135 pts)
9 Canoptek Scarabs, 135 pts ((C:NE, pg. 45); Beasts; Entropic Strike; Fearless; Swarms; Fleet; Move Through Cover)


Composition Report:
HQ: 1 (1 - 2)
Elite: 0 (0 - 3)
Troops: 4 (2 - 6)
Fast: 1 (0 - 3)
Heavy: 3 (0 - 3)
Fort: 0 (0 - 1)

Total Roster Cost: 1991]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515445.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515445.page GMT Re:2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please.
Also, maybe swap a Doom Sycthe for some Lords with Ressurection Orbs, who can make a squad of those Warriors UNDYING MONSTROSITIES!

And, maybe think about swapping those Scarabs for as many Wraiths as possible, who are fantastic advance troops with their ability to ignore Difficult and Dangerous Terrain, and their 3+ Invulnerable saves.

Plus, attempt to group any Necron unit with Reanimation Protocols in the biggest groups you can, so you may think about using that 12-man Warrior Squad for objective-capturing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515462.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515462.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515476.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please.
joemarra052075 wrote:
I might do that in the future. This is a list using the models I currently own + 1 battle force (and I think some fiddily bits like the correct weapons for the models.



Hope you enjoy using this, be interesting to see how it pans out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515488.page GMT Re:2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515509.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6515509.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please. OL going to be in the barge? If so, I would drop the Phaeron upgrade, the relentless isn't going to really do much. Other than that, looks tough.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6516522.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6516522.page GMT Re:2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please.


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ok...dropped the pharon and added another scarab


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Ok. I dropped the Pharon and added another scarab model.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6516733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6516733.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please.
joemarra052075 wrote:

HQ: Overlord (2#, 370 pts)
1 Overlord, 370 pts ((C:NE, pg. 30); Infantry; Warscythe; Mindshackle Scarabs; Phylactery; Sempiternal Weave; Tesseract Labyrinth; Resurrection Orb; Tachyon Arrow; Phase Shifter; Upgrade to Phaeron; Ever-Living; Independent Character; Reanimation Protocols; Relentless; Warlord)
1 Catacomb Command Barge ((C:NE, pg. 52); Chariot; Gauss Cannon; Quantum Shielding; Living Metal; Sweep Attack; Symbiotic Repair; Fearless; Hammer of Wrath; Jink; Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped, Skimmer))

Drop the Phylactery, Tesseract Labyrinth, and pick between either the Semp Weave OR the Phase shifter. If you really want to run both, then just take Nemesor Zahndrekh and put him in the Barge. His 'Tactics' are going to work well with your army setup. If you're just going to run the Barge Empty, then make it an Anni Barge.

joemarra052075 wrote:

Troops: Warriors (20#, 260 pts)
20 Warriors, 260 pts ((C:NE, pg. 33); Infantry; Gauss Flayer; Reanimation Protocols)

Troops: Warriors (20#, 260 pts)
20 Warriors, 260 pts ((C:NE, pg. 33); Infantry; Gauss Flayer; Reanimation Protocols)

Troops: Warriors (13#, 271 pts)
12 Warriors, 271 pts ((C:NE, pg. 33); Infantry; Gauss Flayer; Reanimation Protocols)
1 Ghost Ark ((C:NE, pg. 53); Gauss Flayer Array (each side); Quantum Shielding; Living Metal; Repair Barge; Jink; Vehicle (Open-topped, Skimmer))

Warriors are the best unit in the Codex IMO. Just drop the 2 Warriors on the 3rd squad and just put the 10 inside the Ark.

joemarra052075 wrote:

Heavy Support: Doom Scythe (1#, 175 pts)
1 Doom Scythe, 175 pts ((C:NE, pg. 50); (DFTS, pgs. 60 & 70); Vehicle (Flyer); Death Ray; TL Tesla Destructor; Living Metal; Skyfire; Supersonic)

Heavy Support: Doom Scythe (1#, 175 pts)
1 Doom Scythe, 175 pts ((C:NE, pg. 50); (DFTS, pgs. 60 & 70); Vehicle (Flyer); Death Ray; TL Tesla Destructor; Living Metal; Skyfire; Supersonic)

Unless you are attached to the Death Ray, drop 1 or both of these for Nightscythes. You could bring them both with the Warriors and just Run them empty, or just bring one with the Immortals.

joemarra052075 wrote:

Troops: Immortals (10#, 170 pts)
10 Immortals, 170 pts ((C:NE, pg. 34); Infantry; Gauss Blaster; Reanimation Protocols)

That Gauss will go a lot further if you put them in a Nightscythe or give them a Veiltek/Obyron.

joemarra052075 wrote:

Heavy Support: Doomsday Ark (1#, 175 pts)
1 Doomsday Ark, 175 pts ((C:NE, pg. 48); Doomsday Cannon; Gauss Flayer Array (each side); Quantum Shielding; Living Metal; Jink; Vehicle (Open-topped, Skimmer))

Works well with this list, if you decide to run Imotek, then this isn't a great choice.

joemarra052075 wrote:

Fast Attack: Canoptek Scarabs (9#, 135 pts)
9 Canoptek Scarabs, 135 pts ((C:NE, pg. 45); Beasts; Entropic Strike; Fearless; Swarms; Fleet; Move Through Cover)

Good unit and size, but as the points get larger, these guys become easier to deal with. It's a great setup for your list, but as listed above, a unit of Wraiths is going to serve you better at this points level. If you like scarabs, then just get a second unit. It'll work well with your army, and your opponent will have a rough time dealing with 2 units.

With the points saved, there are several things you can do. First is get a 2nd unit of Scarabs, or a Character for that CCB. Really confused as to why you would want to run that empty. If you turn the CCB into an Anni Barge, then it should be easy to find points for a second one.

Other than that, your army is very competitive. Other things that would make it better is to put the Overlord into one of the 20 man Warrior squads. That Res orb will go a lot further in there. Getting an Orb in the 2nd Warrior Squad would be the only Royal Court that you should also have. With that many guns, have you looked at a Triarch Stalker?

Tactically, even the list as is, you've got a good setup to want to go 2nd. Unless they pop one of your vehicles, you're not giving up First Blood easy. You want to get your opponent to get closer to you and/or get his Flyers on the table before yours come in. So that right there is another reason to avoid Imotekh. Your biggest issue is going to be the 2k games. Not everyone is going to stick with the 1 FOC, so just be aware of that.

Happy enough to see a non-flyer spam list. Best of luck with it all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517035.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please.
32 Warriors
8 Scarabs
5 immortals
2 Scythes (not put together)
1 barge (annihilation/command not put together)
1 Arc (ghost/doomsday not put together)
1 overlord

that is it that I own currently...the list I came up with was for just buying one more model kit for $115 that is why the overlord was so stacked in the build.



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I honestly just wanted to be able to start playing without proxies]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517219.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please. Id say best with what you have is:

OL - 160
Weave
Orb
Scythe
MSS

5x warriors / scythe - 165
5x warriors / scythe - 165
5x immortals - 85
5x warriors / ghost ark - 180
15x warriors - 195 (Lord with orb goes here)

4x scarabs - 60
4x scarabs - 60

Annihilation barge - 90

1160 with a spare overlord (From the barge kit) and 2x warriors

Stretching to 2000 with limited cash will be tough.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517505.page GMT Re:2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please.
Now that I've seen a list of what you have, you're in a good spot. I can understand wanting to reach the points level of what everyone else is playing, but I don't recommend trying to fill out points to get to that level when you're not really going to gain much benefit from trying to do so. If they're at 2000 points, it's easier for them to come down to your points, than it is for you to try and hit theirs. The main reason that I've found people want to play 2k games, is so they can take a 2nd FOC. You'll find tons of Abuse of this online. There is a thread here about some guy who runs 6 Helldrakes, for example.

As for not proxying, well that alone should land you an award.

So with what you have I'd build a 1500 list that you're going to be comfortable with. I'd still recommend getting the Battleforce and work your way up to an 1850 list. Sure you'll probably end up with more than that, but don't try to run with everything you have in every game. Since most of your stuff is still unassembled, here is my advice.

* Build the Anni Barge. The CCB is nice, but you'll be a lot happier with the Bigger guns, and will probably use it more than a CCB since you're not really running much that's in a hurry to meet your opponent.

* 1 Doomscythe is Generally all you'll need. They FAQd out using the Death Ray on flyers, and you'll find that when your opponent has threatening flyers, you'll want to shoot them when you can. With 2 as your best Defense against Flyers, you're pretty much wasting the points for most games.

* Nightscythes are one of the best Transports in the Game and they're cheap. They are also the Necrons 2nd best way to get around long Deployments so you should definitely have 1-2 of these. Since you're running Gauss Immortals, they should get one. With what you have, a second one would work well with Warriors. Remember they can carry 15 models, so 15 Rapid Fire shots on the turn they arrive can do some damage.

* Warriors are one of the most supported units in the Codex and you're going to have 52 with the second Battle force. So I'd recommend, 1 Ghost Ark for sure. I'd also make the 2nd one a Ghost Ark as well, because 2 Arks with a 20 man block of Warriors sandwiched between them is really effective. Doomsday Arks are okay, their big problem is that they need to stay still to use the big Gun, which means no jink. Against opponents with a lot of AT, it becomes a tough call.

* Royal Courts are great fillers, and a better use than taking Wargear on your Overlord. I don't know what your conversion skills are like, but you can easily convert those 2 straggling Warriors into Crypteks using the Deathmatk heads and 2 of the Sniper Barrels to make a Staff. Buying one box of Lychguard to make 5 Lords is common as well.

* Scarabs and Wraiths are the 2 best counter CC units we have available. They will trade places for which one is better depending on how you use them and often the points of the game. As the points get bigger, you should really run a 2nd unit of Scarabs to maintain their relevance, if nothing more than being able to have 2 responses on the Battlefield. Since you're aiming for larger games, invest in 2 boxes of Wraiths down the road.

Hope that helps.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517590.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6517590.page GMT 2000 point Necron list, comments on viability please. GW store. I had heard a lot of bad things about GW stores and was hesitant to go but I needed help with painting and modeling as I had never done either before (no conversion skills at this time). They treated me very well and I am very happy to keep going there. I originally had no intention of tournament play but my experience was good enough that I am considering it....especially since the GW store I am going to said they will allow my daughter to use older models in tourney play (a lot of the NIDS she was just given are 2nd ed and pewter! New the models she was given would have cost about $1k I've been told). At the GW store I am free to use a lessor point army.

I was told before that with the Doom Scythe you want to run 2 in case they take out 1 of them, that Death Ray is amazing on the ground and they are still have a weapon that can fight in the air (the same tesla cannon the night scythes have....too bad it's not on a turret like the fluff says it is). I do know that Ray has won me some games and if I am playing against tanks that tesla cannon is almost useless. But I have some time to try things out before I make the models permanently one thing or another.

Thank you all that helps. Can't wait for my tax return to get in so I can get the rest of those units. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6518537.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/578443/6518537.page GMT