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				<description><![CDATA[ There is another thread, a poster claims a "London borough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store manager" is requiring you to buy 10 Great British Pounds of stuff for every 2 hours you are in the store in order to use the tables/paint station...<br /> <br /> So, anyone who games at any of these official <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store locations, experience that?<br /> <br />  Lancer Square, London · +44 20 7937 7011 <br /> <br />  Unit F10, The Plaza, 116/128 Oxford Street, London · +44 20 7436 0839 <br /> <br />  3637a Myddleton Street, LONDON · +44 20 7713 0835 <br /> <br />  Unit 33 The Market, London · +44 20 7240 5106 <br /> <br />  161 King <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>St</span>, London · +44 20 8846 9744 <br /> <br />  Unit 93 The Mall Wood Green, London · +44 20 8889 1079 <br /> <br />  117 Alexandra Park Road, Muswell Hill, LONDON · +44 20 8883 9901 <br /> <br />  Moor House, 120 London Wall, London · +44 800 394 4263 <br /> <br />  33 Fife Road, Kingston upon Thames · +44 20 8549 5224 <br /> <br />  F9 Mall 3 Shopping Centre Brent Cross, London · +44 20 8202 4979 <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You've missed at least one<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Putney, Upper Richmond Road, Putney, London ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, thanks]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Shouldn't this be in the other thread?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There's also one in Bromley. I was surprised to see the London Wall location, looked it up and i think that's an office, not a store. Don't forget Bluewater, which is just in the M25. <br /> <br /> Edit: Myddleton Street looks to have gone. Shame, looked like an interesting location. <br /> <br /> We've been in Oxford <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>St</span> and Bluewater the last few weeks, no charges in either. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, is this only a London wide problem?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Darn google maps.... not sure if it is a real claim yet....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:03:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bu11etmagn3tt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <font color='red'>.. We'll leave this open for now, it is obviously related to the previous thread elsewhere on this board but a separate thread probably won't do damage or so on.<br /> <br />  However I'll ask, <i>actually make that tell</i>, people to stay calm and polite.<br /> <br />  No need for hysterics and the like.<br /> <b><br />  No fighting on the wargaming forum ! </b>...  <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0"> </font><br /> <br />   As an almost unbelievable side affect perhaps we've at last discovered a use for Warhammer : Visions and its oft mocked store directory ! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d92d889e9ba68aea1e550be782ffc3b3.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579388/6531043.page"><b>reds8n wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br />   As an almost unbelievable side affect perhaps we've at last discovered a use for Warhammer : Visions and its oft mocked store directory ! </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just as planned!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:12:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks mod. Appreciated. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:17:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bu11etmagn3tt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f1b18bd88cc3cc24f351fc83dc51f5cd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579388/6531053.page"><b>Psienesis wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d92d889e9ba68aea1e550be782ffc3b3.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579388/6531043.page"><b>reds8n wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br />   As an almost unbelievable side affect perhaps we've at last discovered a use for Warhammer : Visions and its oft mocked store directory ! </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just as planned!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br />  True story : <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store managers are very pleased the directory exists  -- be it in Visions or the previous version of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(143);'>WD</span> -- as they often use it as a directory when/if they need to get in contact with another store.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:21:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I facebook contacted all London <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> with private message about this...<br /> <br /> "Strange question, but on a game blog a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> bloke claims his local <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> in a London borough is now requiring a £10 every 2 hours purchase in order to use the game or paint tables!  I think he is full of it, and I wanted to know if it were true, or if you think a manager is breaking the rules, or something...."<br /> <br /> Contacted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> too, and they are investigating.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ few responses.....]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There's no investigation happening, managers have been empowered to make their own decisions, as long as they do what they're told.<br /> Schemes like this normally work for someone and so become the new fad for managers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:36:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> another London manager -<br /> <br /> "...we don't charge for anything other than the product off the shelves. I couldn't imagine this would be true but that my guess. It would be a manager up to it, and it would be against the rules. Let me know if you find out anything else.<br /> Thanks <br /> ~Mitchel"]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, so all the London locations responded and do not charge, or require minimum purchase to get hours.... or if they do, it is rare.....<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Mod, go ahead and lock thread. Conclusion is either <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> (who has not responded to posts or pms) of this thread is trolling and/or just wants to bad mouth <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> , or, in my inquiries a manager of one of the 14 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gws</span> in london realized his scam was up (if this truely happening at all)......probably will stop now.....]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I asked around some 'contacts'<br /> <br /> This isn't about charging for tables, it's about rewarding people for spending money instores, it's a variation of orks teef, hobby vouchers, and various others<br /> <br /> Put yourself in the shoes of a store manager, you're selling the product at the most expensive price point it has, the internet is cheaper, whilst you have the advantage of convenience that can also be found in enough local independents,   It's your responsibility to find a way of convincing people to 'support' their store.  If limiting facility usage to customers (specifically customers of the store, not <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> customers in general) is the way they want to do it then it could work]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is there anything concrete on that this actually happened , wasn't it just some guy who made an account with a few posts decided to stir up some fun and now it's erupting into an international scandal. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Variations of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>ot</span> have been happening in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span> stores for the last 12 months<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> The cribbs causeway do it in a style<br /> <br /> They run a hobby bar, to use the hobby bar you have to buy a core box or battleforce to spend the week getting it built and painted instore before playing a game at the weekend<br /> <br /> They vary the requirements dependent on releases, focuses etc<br /> <br /> It's not a bad thing, it's no different than a lot of stores running painting competitions requiring you to buy the model to be eligible]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ wow that's crazy. I'd never set foot in my local <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> again if the manager started charging for playtime. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Since my local manager flat out removed the tables in the store since they were letting people hang around too much, i wonder if i would rather have had him charge for them and kept them.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579388/6534721.page"><b>ahzek wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> This isn't about charging for tables, it's about rewarding people for spending money instores, it's a variation of orks teef, hobby vouchers, and various others<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> agreed...<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> (or original instigator) should have said <br /> <br /> "My local <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store is so busy and crowded that they worked up a system, that for every 10 GBP you spend, you earn a voucher for 2 hours time for either a game table or painting station."<br /> <br /> That would have been a clear statement, that is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> policy based on circumstances and manager discretion, but rarely used except in really busy scenarios....<br /> <br /> He had merely said he had to spend 10 gbp in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> store yo use a atble for 2 hours... misleading troll<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice too see someone following up on things like this to find the truth and give <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores a say in the matter.<br /> <br /> We have no real <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores here in Sweden (not near were I live anyway) but every store I have been in have allways had the best of welcome and help.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:ATTENTION - LONDON area GW gamers! Are you being charged for using the tables in a GW store?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ FOLLOW UP (as seen on original thread) - Ends Thread & clears it up.<br /> <br /> " <b>Psy-Titan wrote:</b><br />  bu11etmagn3tt wrote:<br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> (or original instigator) should have said "My local <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store is so busy and crowded that they worked up a system, that for every 10 GBP you spend, you earn a voucher for 2 hours time for either a game table or painting station." That would have been a clear statement, that is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> policy based on circumstances and manager discretion, but rarely used except in really busy scenarios.... He had merely said he had to spend 10 gbp in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> store yo use a atble for 2 hours... misleading troll <br /> <br /> <br />  Wow! I only check dakka every now and then but i come back and see this angry stuff posted on this thread! Some of it is so aggressive and insulting! My responses are not solely aimed at the poster i have quoted (though he does seem to be the most disturbed) but to answer all questions. To clear a few things up after reading the buckettloads of responses: <br /> <br />  1. First of all I want to make it clear my original post was the absolute truth. Nothing misleading about it. It may have been misconstrued, perhaps I might have worded it better but it was absolutely true and I am not a troll. There were no vouchers involved and it had nothing to do with the store being too busy- quite the opposite actually i suspect. <br /> <br />  2. To the people that wanted to know if I bought my most recent army from this store the answer is: some of it yes, some of it from another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store and some of it online as bits. <br /> <br />  3. Update to situation: 3 days ago I went in the store and was informed that the regional manager had been in touch with the store manager and he had informed him he can't require any monetary purchase for time in store and the policy has been reversed. I suspect this may have been due to the heat created on this very forum and particularly from the actions of the poster I have quoted above as I have seen he has gained responses from at least one manager geographically close to my local store whom I know has connections with my local store- so ironically I may have to thank you for that despite how quick you have been to call me a liar. <br /> <br />  4. Directly to the poster above. You are very wrong. In previous posts you accused me of bullsh#ting simply because I won't name the store. I already stated in a previous post that the fact is I didn't want to land the manager in trouble cos he is a really nice guy and works hard. Although I don't agree with him bringing in this policy I've known him for a while and he certainly wasn't trying to con anyone. I just think his store has hit hard times through no fault of his own cos I see how hard he works to bring people in when I am in there. Why would I want to get him in trouble? We are not all vengeful. Sometimes looking out for someone you think is a decent guy is more important than getting your own way. I know dakka is full of arguementative tw#ts but you were too quick to pull the trigger at me dude. I am not a liar. So although it seems I might possibly have you to thank for having this policy reversed you were wrong about pretty much everything else and I don't appreciate being called a liar for whatever that means to you. <br /> <br /> <b>MY RESPONSE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> PSY -</b><br /> <br /> <br />  Psy <br />  Apologies if I offended. <b>It was hard to believe what you were claiming was true. But it does look like there was one crooked manager out there doing it afterall. I was just thinking of all the gamers getting ripped off (like you) and the bad rap <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> was going to get on it, so best to get on it fast and early. I find it strange that you believed this manager and believed it was policy, yet were afraid to say what location and manager. If you thought it was legit, you would have said. So there was some doubt in your mind. Keep in mind this nice guy manager you keep refering to is ripping people off... </b><br />  You said - <br /> <br />  <font color='orange'>"First of all I want to make it clear my original post was the absolute truth. Nothing misleading about it. It may have been misconstrued, perhaps I might have worded it better but it was absolutely true... 3 days ago I went in the store and was informed that the regional manager had been in touch with the store manager and he had informed him he can't require any monetary purchase for time in store and the policy has been reversed." </font>...<b> (THIS WAS NEVER POLICY <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> BEGIN WITH PSY!)</b> ... <font color='orange'>"Although I don't agree with him bringing in this policy I've known him for a while and he certainly wasn't trying to con anyone. I just think his store has hit hard times through no fault of his own cos I see how hard he works to bring people in when I am in there. Why would I want to get him in trouble?" </font><br /> <br />  <b>if HE WAS FOLLOWING POLICY, HE WOULDN'T GET IN TROUBLE. The fact is, right from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> mouth, this was never policy to begin with & the manager was in fact violating <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> policy. In essence stealing from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> & the gamers! Great friend of yours by the way..... </b><br /> <br />  Here is an email from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> - <br /> <br />  "Hi John <br />  Thanks for the email,<b><u>In order to take part in specific events in store</u></b>, <b>the stores may require you to purchase particular items, however it is not company policy to charge simply to use gaming tables or paint stations. </b>If you let us know which store in particular you are referring to, we will be happy to contact the manager, and request that they amend this policy. <br />  Kind regards <br />  Lydia <br />  Games Workshop Customer Service <br />  tel: 0044 (0) 115 91 40000 <br />  Open Monday to Friday 9.30am to 6pm" <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:22:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bu11etmagn3tt]]></author>
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