http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net wh40k career with the dark angles. I love their fluff but competitively I have never fared better than .500. So I figured I'd try the fallen approach and go CSM. So far they are much more fun to play, more diverse, and a bit more competitive. I have come up with 3 separate 500 pnt. lists I've been using and I am working on melding what I can into my 1000 point list.

So here are the lists I have so far.


Death's Vanguard

HQ
Chaos Lord Kranon (65 pts): bog standard

Troops
Cobb's Chaos Space marines 10 units (210 pts): CCW and pistols, 2 flamers, mark of slanesh and FNP icon of excess.

Techvar's Cultists 10 count (50 pts): bog standard

Anarchus' Cultists 10 count (50 pts.): bog standard

Elite
Helbrute Drax The Destroyer (125 pts) las cannon

Total: 500 points



The Disciples of Death

HQ
Daemon Prince Morbo (The News Daemon) 265 pnts. Black mace, wings, PA, Daemon of Tzeentch.

Troops
Techvar's Cultists 10 count (65): 8 Auto guns, 1 heavy stubber, and champion with shotgun

Anarchus' Cultists 10 count (55 pts.): bog standard but with a flamer.

Elite
Helbrute Drax The Destroyer (115 pts) aditional heavy flamer.

Total: 500 points.



The Fallen

HQ
Seraphicus The Fallen (sorcerer-110 pts): mastery lvl 2, mark of Tzeentch, force stave, gift of mutation

Troops
Techvar's Cultists 10 count (65): 8 Auto guns, 1 heavy stubber, and champion with shotgun

Anarchus' Cultists 10 count (55 pts.): bog standard but with a flamer.

Elite
Helbrute Drax The Destroyer (1oo pts) bog standard

Fast Attack
Heldrake Drogon (170 pts)

Total: 500 points




So My 1000 point list I am hovering at right now comes at around 1000 points, and the idea is to try as much as I can before refinement, but I want input on any of these lists really. Some of my judgment may be clouded with the paint job for the dp and hb as both took me 10+ hours and are the best I have panted yet.


The Fallen

HQ
Daemon Prince Morbo (The News Daemon) 265 pnts. Black mace, wings, PA, Daemon of Tzeentch. (warlord)

Seraphicus The Fallen (sorcerer-60 pts): bog standard

Troops
Anarchus' Cultists 16 count (79 pts.): bog standard but with a flamer.

Techvar's Cultists 10 count (65): 8 Auto guns, 1 heavy stubber, and champion with shotgun

unnamed Cultists 10 count (65): 8 Auto guns, 1 heavy stubber, and champion with shotgun

Elite
Helbrute Drax The Destroyer (1oo pts) bog standard

Fast Attack
Heldrake Drogon (170 pts)

Heavy
Defiler (195 pts) Bog Standard.

total 1000 points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579623/6535965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579623/6535965.page GMT MoS and Icon of Excess though...that seems, umm, excessive

If you dropped the Helbrute, the MoS, and the Icon of Excess, you could probably by a Heldrake. He probably won't have a reliable way at 500 points to deal with your flyer. If you can keep the drake alive long enough to roast his troops, you win.

Just my 2¢]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579623/6536737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579623/6536737.page GMT HQ-76pts of Pain
T1-Fodder 1 (CC cult x 10)
T2-Fodder 2 (CC cult x 10)
F1-Spawn x4 + MoN
F2-Turkey w/Baleflamer

414 for troops and fast units, 76pts for HQ/upgrades.
At 1000 add 1 Spawn w/ MoN.

A great base is 2 x 10 cult, 5 spawn (MoN), Turkey = 450pts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579623/6536992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579623/6536992.page GMT