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i was thinkng of building a crimson fists army with chapter master Pedro Kantor as HQ, the point limit is 1850.
My main problem is...
-apart from the 1-2 sternguard as elite, scouts as troops and 1 or 2 Thunderfire cannon..

-what HS unit i should take between devastator and Centurion ( las o grav-cannon? the las-cannon is also twin-linked), remember that with imperial fists army i will get tank-hunter special rule for them..

-should i take some Fast support? 5 assault marines with 2 flamer and maybe a melta bomb? a storm talon with skyhammer? 1-2 land speeders with 2 shots misisle launcher?

-then, where do i put Pedro? ( he's a good all-comer character, so he lacks specialization ) in a drop-pod with sternguard or with devastators/centurion seems the best options IMO

feel free to add any type of suggestion, consider that in my meta i will probably find: orks, tyranid, guard, space marines and maybe tau. The level of competitiveness here isn't stellar, or better, we play to have fun, so even if this list isn't very good, i should be fine ( but i need to know more experienced opinions ) .

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sorry to disappoint you but 5 assault marines die. sad, but true. I think stormtalons are good though. so are land speeders with meltas.

I think pedro should go with centurions if you take them. Sounds good!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579642/6537296.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579642/6537296.page GMT
For Imperial Fists (Crimson Fists) you definitely want bolter spam. With Pedro you want to get your sternguard going for sure.

Perhaps 2 x 10 Sternguard (pods or rhinos), 2 x 10 Tacs (pods or rhinos), Grav Centurions in a LRC and 2 TFC's (+1 empty pod if you're going pods).

Then you'll want some special weapons (Melta, Plasma, Las, whatever you like) to take care of the big threats. I'm less of a fan of combi-weapons on Sternguard since the new codex made them twice as expensive, but the heavy/special choices are still cheap.
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