http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net SM list,are there sny good no-vehicle, no-bike lists?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546252.page GMT Marines need transports in one form or the other. A walking marine is a dead marine. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546355.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546355.page GMT I don't want to buy vehicles because they're rediculously expensive and I am terribad at scratchbuilding.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546365.page GMT . Otherwise how do you feel about drop pods? Without something to get your marines from point A to point B a gun line army will tear you apart before you even get close :(. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546369.page GMT
You could go for Blood Angels to get jump pack assault marines as troops, and have no vehicles that way. --You could also go Sanguinary Guard troops with Dante. Additionally, we have a dreadnought that can take a psychic power to have jump pack movement, and has ironclad (13) front armor.

Could run Dark Angels Deathwing for Terminator troops and deepstrike in with a sizeable portion of them.

You could go for 205820458205825 infiltrating scouts as your troops. Perhaps with ccw+pistol for up-in-your-face early combat, and back them up with fast attack assault marines to deepstrike in while the enemy is swamped in combats, and join in with real hitting power. Marneus Calgar on the table would make this even more effective, for making the scouts have better-than-fearless morale.

Beyond those, I can't think of another method to be on the board as marines without any vehicles and not just get destroyed by long range enemies and objective VP's. At the very least, drop pods would be necessary. Unless you just got quite lucky and got "The Scouring" and all the good objectives fell on your side.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546396.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546396.page GMT BA codex, but isn't it ment to be useless in competitive play?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546412.page GMT
Other than that though, don't underestimate the power of a giant mob of jump pack marines with a psychic bubble of 5+ cover, and several bubbles of FNP and furious charge.

I've had a Dante death star unit (Dante, 10 ASM, a priest and a libby) drop in on some orks, and with careful use of terrain and hit and run, the entire rest of my army was just trying to catch up to them. The unit slaughtered their way through about 1200 points of orks and lost 2 marines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580171/6546439.page GMT