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Any suggestions would be great from you deathwatch experts and fanatics. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554371.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554371.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions
Deathwatch tends to have those fancy helmets with lens and targeters. The Rhino crew's head is perfect for that. plenty of people should have spares laying around.

Something like this: http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/product_info.php/space-marine-vehicle-crew-head-p-1241?osCsid=5o1eu81l6p002c2ea2qs70po77

As for their fancy bolters you can either use regular bolters and maybe slap a sniper scope on top.

Or you could use Forge World's Ferrox Bolters
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/SPACE_MARINE_BOLTER_UMBRA_FERROX_X10.html

Just a few suggestions I am throwing out there ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554426.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions It'll probably be cheaper to buy a Stern Guard box & sell the left-overs or stick them in your bits box.
You may even have enough bits left over to make another complete squad maybe having to use spare marine bits you may have.

Did you get this set:


http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440277a&prodId=prod1110206 or are you just making them from scratch?
If you do have this set I'd definitely grab some different heads, preferably all different. Also maybe consider mixing up the boltguns.

t really depends on what role you want them to perform but I see them as a fast-moving strike force.
Not sure what weapons are available but I would look at putting them in a rhino & going for combi-weapons & melta guns. Sergeant should have a power weapon too (IMHO) & melta bombs all round if possible for taking out vehicles.
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The targeting head I didn't think of that's a good point. And would a sword or power fist be more appropriate for slaughtering xenos?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554861.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554861.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions
As for what else to give them, a lot depends on the rest of your list (if you are concerned with tabletop performance)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6554956.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions cc but being able to kill stuff and whatever the loadout, I can tailor the rest of my army to fit so the rest of the army is irrelevant. What 2 special weapons or heavy weapons or combination not only look good but will kill plenty. From my my searches, seems like heavy bolters are portrayed alot but Idk if that's best for a mobile spec is team.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555074.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555074.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions

Give the serg a melta bomb for anti-AV13+ and take 7 vets and your good to go.

I suggest giving Shrouded to the serg, so that he has better survivability.

Other 2 USR's are up to you, shred is nice on one guy so he can reroll failed wounds with vengence rounds for example.

Im not sure if armorbane stacks with kraken rounds anymore. Fleet might be good for one of em though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555075.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions Don't know much about their special ammo or USRs you can choose though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555245.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555245.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions cc but being able to kill stuff and whatever the loadout, I can tailor the rest of my army to fit so the rest of the army is irrelevant. What 2 special weapons or heavy weapons or combination not only look good but will kill plenty. From my my searches, seems like heavy bolters are portrayed alot but Idk if that's best for a mobile spec op team.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555349.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions
As far as armament goes, the Templar should still have his tabard IMO, and be close combat orientated.
As Deathwatch are certainly hunters, after a fashion anyway, and as a Space Wolf is the epitome of a hunter - enhanced senses compared to even other astartes, I'd have him bare headed, though with a Space Wolves head rather than a Deathwatch one.

I think that the trick here will be to get as much individuality out of them without them looking too un unified. To me just a painted pad doesn't quite show the differences, it's in the posing, the little iconography that's etched into the amour and the fetishes (in the Space Wolves' case) and extra accruements that they have on their armour that do it for me.

I can't comment on the gaming side, however, as I've never played properly, to me it's the character that matters, I'm happy to get trounced as long as I look good doing it, and there's a definite character to my models, rather than just a power list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555377.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions 40k, but alack that's what you're stuck with for use in regular games.

I'd think about giving them all character first, then figuring out how to utilize them on the table second. If you want the Ultramarine to represent the Sgt., I actually think a Power Maul would be really fitting. Make it a Power Scepter, which he uses because he fancies himself a pontiff. The Dark Angels guy, he might be kind of difficult without going to a bits seller to pick up one of the robed bodies. Dark Angels in the Deathwatch still wear the robes that signifies the chapter. Also, I'd think about giving him a combi-plasma. Doubt it'd be totally worth that in a kill team game but it'd be so fluffy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555432.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions cc wise if I use them as company vets for dark angels. But I like the idea of special ammo and for use in that deathwatch formation from the Damnos book.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555515.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555515.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions
 SRSFACE wrote:
Deathwatch are best represented either by Sternguard or Vanguard. In the role-playing game, there's no need for them to all be shooty or all be melee like there would be in regular 40k, but alack that's what you're stuck with for use in regular games.

I'd think about giving them all character first, then figuring out how to utilize them on the table second. If you want the Ultramarine to represent the Sgt., I actually think a Power Maul would be really fitting. Make it a Power Scepter, which he uses because he fancies himself a pontiff. The Dark Angels guy, he might be kind of difficult without going to a bits seller to pick up one of the robed bodies. Dark Angels in the Deathwatch still wear the robes that signifies the chapter. Also, I'd think about giving him a combi-plasma. Doubt it'd be totally worth that in a kill team game but it'd be so fluffy.


Really it would be worth it in killteam, and a great way to keep it fluffy.

So something like this for pure KillTeam play:( too bad you now half to purchase full squads, I liked the previous rules better in that regard)
Ultra: Power weapon, combi-flamer
Blood Angel: heavy flamer, combi-grav
Space Wolf: Combi-grav, USR Preferred enemy(Guerrilla)
Templar: USR Crusader, combi Flamer (indomitable)
Dark Angel: Plasma gun, USR Mastercrafted PG(Weapon Specialist), Bolter

Nice thing about Sternguard, the heavy and special weapon guys don't give up the Bolters. And that is 200 points, I would be tempted to make the Blood Angel a Salamander and go Hvy flamer + combi melta.




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Plus, it'd give a pretty solid one-hit KO chance against any rhinos someone might think to bring.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555654.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6555672.page GMT modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions
For (normal 40k) sternguard in a drop pod, you are going to want 2-3 combi-meltas, and a HF or two. And a full 10 man squad by preference. If you want a CC weapon on the sarge, go with a lighting claw. Very few weapons are worth taking the special ammo bolters away from them. And at 10 points a pop, I think combi weapons are too pricy to give everyone.

If you want to look cool and be a little more fluffly, you can change things up a bit. Give the DA a c-plas. Not worth the points IMHO, but not useless.
The Wolf can just be a stock sternguard with a bolter. Give him a combat knife in his off hand for looks.
Same could be said for the BT and BA. Although if someone was going to get the nod for a c-melta, I’d give it to the BA.
Paint up a Salamander for the HF marine. The only iconography he needs is the huge flamethrower!

HBs are cool looking, and iconic for deathwatch, but are not worth handing out to sternguard.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6556770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6556770.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6556858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6556858.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions pad in the new tactical box that looks like the Aurora chapter badge, if you wanted to add a little more variety.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6557192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6557192.page GMT Re:modeling a deathwatch killteam appropriately questions http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6557392.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/580642/6557392.page GMT