http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Iron Hands

HQ (225pts)

Chapter Master (225pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character, Orbital Bombardment
Artificer Armor (20pts), replace Chainsword with Relic Blade (25pts), The Shield Eternal (50pts)

Elites (555pts)

Terminator Squad (555pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
6x Terminator (240pts)
Land Raider (275pts)
Assault Vehicle, Power of the Machine Spirit
Extra Armour (10pts), Multi-Melta (10pts), Storm Bolter (5pts)
Terminator Sergeant (40pts)
Power Sword

Troops (680pts)

Tactical Squad (170pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
Lascannon (20pts), Meltagun (10pts), 9x Space Marine (126pts)
Space Marine Sergeant (14pts)
Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Tactical Squad (170pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
Lascannon (20pts), Meltagun (10pts), 9x Space Marine (126pts)
Space Marine Sergeant (14pts)
Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Tactical Squad (170pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
Lascannon (20pts), Meltagun (10pts), 9x Space Marine (126pts)
Space Marine Sergeant (14pts)
Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Tactical Squad (170pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
Lascannon (20pts), Meltagun (10pts), 9x Space Marine (126pts)
Space Marine Sergeant (14pts)
Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Fast Attack (481pts)

Bike Squad (178pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
Meltagun (10pts), 7x Space Marine Biker (147pts)
Biker Sergeant (21pts)
Bolt pistol

Bike Squad (178pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads
Meltagun (10pts), 7x Space Marine Biker (147pts)
Biker Sergeant (21pts)
Bolt pistol

Stormtalon Gunship (125pts)
Aerial Assault, Escort Craft, Hover Strike, Supersonic
Skyhammer Missile Launcher (15pts), Twin-Linked Assault Cannon

Heavy Support (555pts)

Predator (155pts)
Extra Armour (10pts), Lascannons (40pts), Storm Bolter (5pts), Twin-Linked Lascannons (25pts)

Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Assault Vehicle, Ceramite Plating, Power of the Machine Spirit
Storm Strike Missile, Twin Linked Assault Cannons, Twin Linked Multi Meltas

Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Assault Vehicle, Ceramite Plating, Power of the Machine Spirit
Storm Strike Missile, Twin Linked Assault Cannons, Twin Linked Multi Meltas

Pts 2496

Basically Im playing against alot of tau and eldar armies with meta lists and im trying to bring alot of firepower and a variety of "high value" units aka bikes, stormtalon, stormravens, predators, terminators, and the land raider. I also plan to split my tactical squads up for objective purposes if I need to. Anyone have any tips or suggestions or things i may be leaving out. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566027.page GMT This is somewhat hard to read and I'm not sure if you are going for 1500pts or 2500pts as you have two listed. The couple of changes I would make are with your CM and Tacticals. Your CM should be on a bike to make it harder to wound him being as he already has 4 wounds...making him T5 with IWND makes him even more a pain in the ass (plus your bikes are now scoring). Your tacticals are built for two rolls...while spliting them up to combat squad them I would wonder how long it will take for the Melta to get into range of its target before getting shot up? Just some thoughts.

Mr Raynor]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566284.page GMT CM but i was planning on attaching him to the terminators and i think 2+/3++/6+++ with no instant death and 4 wounds on him will suffice . And as far as rushing my tacticals across the board to objectives, i have the two stormravens and the land raider *i am not starting the terminators in it, i just wanted it on the field for a tac-squad.

Also thanks for telling me about my list being squished, i didnt realise it was so i fixed it as well as the points 2496 ***

*Gotta love the Iron Hands for that 6+ feel no pain too, it always seems to help at the most random of times]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566301.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566310.page GMT
Still there are those couple of things I'm worried about. At 2500pts your opponents are going to have Wave Serpents galoure or Crisis Suits out the ass. So with one squad tacticals footin it across the broad...I don't see them surviving very long. Also, the other three in their rather expensive transports (Land Raider/Stormravens)...going up against these two armies will cut them dry out of the sky. Yes, if this plan works it will work in your favor but if it fails you will fill it very heavily. As for your CM, I see it is very tempting to put him with Terminators but, you do not have TH/SS's, they wont be able to DS, and no sweeping advance. If I were you I would put TH/SS's and start them in the LR for Assault down the road...then again that would leave another tactical squad out in the open. Some points I wanted to throw at you as I have had some of these problems in the past.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581247/6566333.page GMT