http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net MM/ML dreads blew apart the MC's, and my MM/Flamer tactical squads held their own well. Vulkan and his dual flamer assault squad were tarpitted, my Librarian did OK, and my hammernators were useless. Below is a tentative list to deal with his:

HQ
Vulkan - 190
Motf with bike and conversion beamer - 130

Elite
Ironclad Dreadnought with two HF, seismic hammer, assault launchers, in a drop pod - 190
Ironclad Dreadnought with two HF, seismic hammer, assault launchers, in a drop pod - 190
Ironclad Dreadnought with two HF, seismic hammer, assault launchers, in a drop pod - 190

Troops
Tactical Squad with MM/Flamer, Combi-melta - 165
Tactical Squad with MM/Flamer, Combi-melta - 165

Heavy Support
Venerable Dreadnought with MM/ML - 135
Venerable Dreadnought with MM/ML - 135]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6568516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6568516.page GMT ML/lascannon would pair a lot better than MM/ML due to the range of a MM. What did your opponent have and what was givin you trouble?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6568690.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6568690.page GMT MM because a) it was free b) would be mastercrafted c) it was AP1. I was inflicting a lot of wounds on the MC's with 2/2 to hit/wound.

Seeing as how Tyranids lack vehicles, the LC is probably better with its higher strength.

I guess the biggest problem I had was dealing with the number of T6, 3+ wounds, units/MC's. His units were always in synapse. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6568739.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6568739.page GMT If you're going to give the Venerables lascannons, you could consider making the MM an autocannon and sitting him back. as a couple of weapons platforms. If you make them weapons platforms then keep them as HS choices.

As for the Ironclads themselves; Try making it a Melta/HF dread, that way they can have a S8 AP1 weapon and benefit from Vulkan. (Vehicles don't benefit from Chapter Tactics except for IWND for Iron Hands. Don't take this the wrong way I just see a lot of people make this mistake)

I'll get back to you if I can think of anything else.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6572578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581381/6572578.page GMT