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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all<br /> i played a while with this list<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> Mephiston<br /> <font color='orange'><b>Elite</b></font><br /> Furioso Dreadnaught w/ frag cannon, blood fist + meltagun, magna-grapple, drop-pod<br /> Furioso Dreadnaught w/ frag cannon, blood fist + meltagun, magna-grapple, drop-pod<br /> <b><font color='red'>Troops</font></b><br /> 5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> + dozer blade<br /> 5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> + dozer blade<br /> 5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> + dozer blade<br /> 5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> + dozer blade<br /> 5x ASM w/ flamer, 2x hand flamer on drop-pod<br /> 5x scout w/ sniper and camo cloak<br /> <b><font color='green'>Fast</font></b><br /> Baal Predator w/ flamestorm + hvy bolter, hunter-seeker missile<br /> Baal Predator w/ flamestorm + hvy bolter, hunter-seeker missile<br /> <br /> <b>Total:</b> <u>1800</u> points<br /> 
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</div>The list was for 1750 points but i have a +50 for campaign rules<br /> we made a re-match this thursday and i'm looking forward to made some little tweaking<br /> he's using 4 waveserpent, 1 jetbike troop with farseer and warlock, and wraithknight<br /> <br /> i thought about removing a razorback and put an inquisitor with multi-melta servitor and jokaero, inside Chimera<br /> i can also change a little on asm squad on pod, like using a sternguard with combi-melta or bolter using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> (i don't really love <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span>, to be honest...)<br /> and swap one or two baal for vindicator<br /> <br /> what do you think?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:12:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice looking mech list. I would drop the magnagrapples, the scouts, and the Baals for Annihilator pattern Preds. The more Lascannons, the better.<br /> <br /> Lucarikx]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:24:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lucarikx]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Tweaking the old 18750+50 BA (vs Eldar)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ d'oh i just realised i wrote "18750+50"... i was willing to say "1750+50" :p]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:40:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ each-uisge]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3d874782708627527fb50876ae9396f0.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581833/6576719.page"><b>Lucarikx wrote:</b></a><br/>Nice looking mech list. I would drop the magnagrapples, the scouts, and the Baals for Annihilator pattern Preds. The more Lascannons, the better.<br /> <br /> Lucarikx</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Second this but I don't like the Annihilator pattern. I like to keep em cheap keep em mobile. If you keep the Autocannon instead of the TLd Las you can move 12, fire both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> sponsons and get two snapshot <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> shells for 65 points less. You could almost buy a third one for the points you save on two Predators without the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>. Sure it's not very fluffy and if you sit predator still/move six inches the Lascannon is better but the cost is simply outrageous and the other version performs admirably in my experience]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:13:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Tweaking the old 18750+50 BA (vs Eldar)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Lascannon predator is very expensive for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>...<br /> i use baal for alpha strike or vindicator to move slow (well, slower than scouting baal <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ) and fire large pizza dish around the field...<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>, predator too are fast so they can shoot with lascannon even if moving at 12" (and with lascannon range probably you can move 6" and still being on range)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:55:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Tweaking the old 18750+50 BA (vs Eldar)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ i played this game, swapping a razorback unit with an inquisitory chimera w 2 gimp and 3 servitor. However, it did'nt gone well 'cause some strategical error (like using mephiston to chase down waveserpent in lieu of protecting relics eradicating everythin who would come close...)<br /> <br /> next week first turn campaign will end and probably i will lose some territories so i could have more point; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>, i'm still thinking about how to tweak the 1750 base list...<br /> <br /> based on my experience, 4 razorback are cool but they will explode very quickly and 5 asm squad are not really useful to hold objective and killing things; so i'm planning on removing one of them and use the spare 170 point to put something else on the field... ok... whatelse?<br /> a good idea could be to make drop-pod asm squad a 10 men squad, so i can use them to capture/contest/hold objective very quickly, flame and assalt thing everywher on the field, or split them for a tactical move.<br /> This will leave me with 60-70 point... what can i do with them?<br /> <br /> a) buy a priest. i can use it on a razorback to keep asm alive when <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(112);'>rb</span> will eventyally explode. Also, if i try to keep him close to mephiston i can also increase his potential to an unstoppable machine of doom. Or i can also put him on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(457);'>jp</span> and put him close to the tank wall to help whoever need his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> aura<br /> b) buy deathwind launcher on every/some pod. i think a 20 point large blast anti infantry pod weapon is a waste of point but could be useful against tau or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>, or just to make drop pod a target priority (and let <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(112);'>RB</span> live a turn more)<br /> c) buy a priest and put him on pod assault squad (making them a 9 man squad) and use it like a spearhead to penetrate assault <br /> d) remove also the drop-pod asm and put on a 8 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>pw</span> and bolter, or a melta+combi-melta sternguard. I will lose 10 scoring marine for a strong deep striking unit (the former anti-infantry, the latter anti-tank). If i put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> i can squeeze in a chaplain (based on point bonus i will have in campaign, swapping fragioso with standard melta dread, or removing some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>pw</span> from dc)<br /> e) leave the drop pod squad a 5 man squad, and squeeze in a stormraven (again, with point bonus i would have in campaign, or swapping fragioso with standard melta dread)]]></description>
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