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				<title>1750 clan Raukaan iron hands, attempt at competitive list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Chapter master, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, gorgon's chain, artificer armor, Bike<br /> Mastery lvl2 librarian with forfe axe on the bike<br /> command squad with bikes and apothecary<br /> TROOPS<br /> 10 man tactical squad with plasma gun, and sargeant with combi plasma in Drop pod<br /> 5x scout snipers<br /> 5x scout snipers<br /> 5x bike squad with 2 grav guns<br /> ELITE<br /> 10man Sternguard with 5 combi meltas and 5 combi flamers in a drop pod<br /> Fast attack<br /> Stormtalon with skyhammer<br /> Stormtalon with skyhammer<br /> HEAVY SUPPORT<br /> TF cannon<br /> Tactics: drop 10 man sternguard to pop some expensive tank, and ruin a day to tarpits while chapter master, chaplain and command squad flat out along the bikes and tacticals in a rhino while scouts would sit on objectives in my deployment zone and well... snipe people <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br />  I am building this list for a tournament, so feedback would be much appreciated<br /> 2nd edit: forgot to add 2 grav guns on bikers...EDIT: edited a list based on Araenion's advices]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Mar 2014 15:42:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>1750 clan Raukaan iron hands, attempt at competitive list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Drop the combi-flamers and add a drop pod to the tactical squad. <br /> <br /> I'd also drop the Vindi and add a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span>, since the thing is pretty amazing and murder for all xenos infantry, which includes Eldar and Tau. And take the Shield-Eternal for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span>. Without it, one S10 hit is all it takes. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Mar 2014 16:41:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Araenion]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1750 clan Raukaan iron hands, attempt at competitive list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ok, i can agree on combi flamers, but gorgon's chain is a beast(better shield eternal that DOESN'T take weapon slot) basically it gives you 3++ eternal warrior and +1 to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> roll, and if you get 3 on raukaan warlord trait table, you got T5(2+/3++ and 3+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> 4 wound character)<br /> I still have to get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span> model and bikers... But if i drop vindicator then i can get Drop AND <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span> and keep the combi flamers <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> so yeah, it is worth it...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Mar 2014 16:46:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ThatSwellFella]]></author>
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				<title>1750 clan Raukaan iron hands, attempt at competitive list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Really? Why don't people take it more often then? Or is it just a Clan Raukaan artifact? Anyway, if it gives you all that, then I'd certainly take it, no matter the points(how much is it, in fact?)<br /> <br /> Combi-flamers can be nice, but are a lot of points and your special ammo is ridiculously good already, especially against infantry or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>. But the flamers can be good too.<br /> <br /> A great list either way, can't wait to test my Eldar against it! <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Mar 2014 18:44:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Araenion]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1750 clan Raukaan iron hands, attempt at competitive list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hah, glad you like it <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> but yeah Gorgon's chain is clan raukaan only so people don't take it often because it is for ironhands chaptertactics only oh and its 45 points which is CHEAPER than shield eternal... DERP <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> too bad i don't have bikers, 2nd drop pod and 10 sternguard... All in its time i guess]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Mar 2014 20:02:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ThatSwellFella]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1750 clan Raukaan iron hands, attempt at competitive list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I just added a librarian lvl2 with force axe on bike instead of chaplain, realized it is lot more viable, especially if i roll an iron arm... With that my already tough nut to crack chapter master might be tougher than wraithknight T8,2+/3++ 3 or 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span>, depending on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(227);'>wl</span> trait and 4 wounds <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>... Just in case you get the feel you are gonna get crappy saving throws...   <img src="/s/i/a/fd71d655ed1170b5e731d23d94924695.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Mar 2014 23:04:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ThatSwellFella]]></author>
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