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				<title>Initiative in Assault</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking about how Assault works in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, and wondering if there was a way to change it that might allow some more units to find it useful. I noted the annoyance people feel for things like Warp Talons and Daemons not having Grenades, and frustrating assaulting a unit in cover can be.<br /> <br /> So I was thinking:<br /> - A unit that charges another unit in the Assault phase receives +1 A and I during that phase.<br /> - If an unengaged unit is charged, and the charging unit moves through difficult terrain, the charged unit receives +5 I for that phase.<br /> <br /> The bonus Initiative reflects the impact of the charge, giving a very slight addition to the 'do I stand here and shoot 'em or do I charge?' decision. The additional Initiative means chargers are before things like Axes and Fists, Guardsmen in cover would strike at <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(73);'>Ini</span> Step 8, which is a heck of an advantage still, and wargear that adds or subtracts I might gain a slight edge in some situations.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? I figured charging the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> rules with perhaps a couple of errata sentences for some Codices would be better than trying to refix assault for each unit that might want to be assaulting in each individual codex. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:14:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Slaanesh-Devotee]]></author>
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				<title>Initiative in Assault</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What's the point of the +5 I though? Isn't that basically what opponents hiding behind cover will be? Warp Talons will still be only initiative 5 (slaanesh 6) so in  the end it really makes no difference except for on a very small number of models that are I8+.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:22:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ StarTrotter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For now, yes. But it could be a different amount for the defenders, or attackers could get other bonuses.<br /> <br /> I just thought the flat 'At I' or 'I1' was too limiting.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:36:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Slaanesh-Devotee]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Initiative in Assault</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Questions:<br /> <br /> What about assault / defensive grenades?<br /> What about units with the "ignores difficult terrain" rule?<br /> What about jump / jet infantry or monstrous creatures?<br /> Would stealth / shroud come into play?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:50:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Hanith]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In my head I had thought:<br /> Assault grenades removes the I bonus for being in cover.<br /> Defensive grenades removes the extra attack but not the I bonus for charging.<br /> I would probably say ignores difficult terrain ignores or reduces the bonus for being in cover.<br /> I'd probably not include bonuses for stealth/shrouded, they feel more centred on shooting to me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Mar 2014 23:33:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Slaanesh-Devotee]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Initiative in Assault</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I see reason in all that.<br /> <br /> I'd go with "Ignores difficult terrain = Ignores I Penalty / Bonus"<br /> <br /> While "Move through Cover = Reduces I Penalty / Bonus by 1D6 (To a minimum of the charged units base I)"<br /> This way you can account for them moving through cover at different rates / tripping over themselves.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Mar 2014 23:06:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Hanith]]></author>
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