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currently

HQ: Jump libby( shield and and lance)-125

Elites: 2x Jump priests:175

Troops:10x jump marines 2x melta 1xpf-235
Troops:10x jump marines 2x melta 1xpf-235
Troops:10x jump marines 2x flamers 1xpf-225
Troops:10x jump marines 2x flamers 1xpf-225

Fast Attack: Vet vanguard 1x pf 2x pw 2x melta bombs-185
Fast Attack: Vet vanguard 1x pf 2x pw 2x melta bombs-185

Heavy support: 5x dev squad 4x ML-130

or something similar to this list is what i had been using in the previous edition(5th)

Im looking at adding in a few things and taking a few things out. Im pretty sure i have a few threads already like this put meh, apologies.

a few things id like to add are 1-2 stormraves with with ML and TL AC. Id also like to add in a bunch of assault termies thunderhammers and shields and some lighting claws. I dont care about it being able to destroy in tournaments( I rarely have time for them as is) Id also like to add in 1-2 Dakka baal preds.

I would like to drop the V.V and dev unit. What do you think Dakka?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6601083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6601083.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army
 stileprojekt wrote:

Elites: 2x Jump priests:175

Troops:10x jump marines 2x melta 1xpf-235
Troops:10x jump marines 2x melta 1xpf-235
Troops:10x jump marines 2x flamers 1xpf-225
Troops:10x jump marines 2x flamers 1xpf-225

Fast Attack: Vet vanguard 1x pf 2x pw 2x melta bombs-185
Fast Attack: Vet vanguard 1x pf 2x pw 2x melta bombs-185

Heavy support: 5x dev squad 4x ML-130

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a few things id like to add are 1-2 stormraves with with ML and TL AC. Id also like to add in a bunch of assault termies thunderhammers and shields and some lighting claws. I dont care about it being able to destroy in tournaments( I rarely have time for them as is) Id also like to add in 1-2 Dakka baal preds.

I would like to drop the V.V and dev unit. What do you think Dakka?


First of all, your priests are overcosted by 25 points (not sure how you did that?)

Second, drop all the powerfists. They'll never get to actually hit anything. That's a leftover from 5th edition and not a good use of points at all. You save 120 pts from that if I'm not mistaken.

Next, don't bring Missile Launcher Devs. Also a leftover of 5th edition. Str 8 shooting is good if you have weight of it. 4 shots is not weight of fire. either upgrade them to Lascannons and take 5 extra bullet catchers to save your expensive heavy weapons or drop them. A min squad with missile launchers contributes nothing but a KP a game mode like that.

I like Vets but feel free to drop them as everyone else hates them.

Do take Storm Ravens, with AC/HB or LC and always go with the MM.

Do take Baal Preds but don't Dakka em up. Give em the Heavy Bolter sponsons but trade the TLAC for the Flamestorm Cannon. A scouting/outflanking, fast AV13 tank with a Str6 AP3 template weapon is nothing to sniff at.

Hammernators + Corbulo is an unstoppable rape train. Putting Gabriel Seth, Reclusiarch, or a Librarian with Unleash Rage knocks it up to 11. You can put them in Redeemer or a Crusader and they lose nothing and gain a lot of protection and mobility for it. At this point your unit is coming close to 700+ points though and you better commit hard to this strategy or it won't work.

More than all that, take what units you want and have fun!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6601920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6601920.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army JP's? If so, they should cost 215 points. If not, what on Earth are they doing there?

Dropping them isn't a bad idea. And drop the Devs as well.
ML Devastators have two legit targets in the whole game.
Rhinos and Eldar Wraithguard/Lord.

Corbulo + Hammernators are an awesome combo and they don't even need a LR to be effective.

Here's a 1500 point list I'd be ready to use.

Librarian - 125p
- Jump Pack

2x Sanguinary Priest - 150p
- Jump Packs

Brother Corbulo - 105p

Terminator Assault Squad - 225p
- TH/SS everywhere

Assault Squad - 235p
- 2x Meltagun, PF

Assault Squad - 235p
- 2x Meltagun, PF

Assault Squad - 225p
- 2x Flamers, PF

Stormraven - 200p]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6602018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6602018.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army
Shooty Terminators work too, and I think I'd always ally in an Inquisitor or some description

Ordo Xenos - Psyker, Liber Heresius, Rad and Psychotroke grendades (in with Hammernators)

Ordo Malleus - Psyker, Liver Heresius, TDA, Psycannon (in with shooty Terminators)

Coteaz (in with shooty Terminators)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6602523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6602523.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army
 soomemafia wrote:
So wait, do those Vets have JP's? If so, they should cost 215 points. If not, what on Earth are they doing there?

Dropping them isn't a bad idea. And drop the Devs as well.
ML Devastators have two legit targets in the whole game.
Rhinos and Eldar Wraithguard/Lord.

Corbulo + Hammernators are an awesome combo and they don't even need a LR to be effective.

Here's a 1500 point list I'd be ready to use.

Librarian - 125p
- Jump Pack

2x Sanguinary Priest - 150p
- Jump Packs

Brother Corbulo - 105p

Terminator Assault Squad - 225p
- TH/SS everywhere

Assault Squad - 235p
- 2x Meltagun, PF

Assault Squad - 235p
- 2x Meltagun, PF

Assault Squad - 225p
- 2x Flamers, PF

Stormraven - 200p



I thought you are only allowed 3 elite spots, All those priests take them up no room for Termies.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 bocatt wrote:
 stileprojekt wrote:

Elites: 2x Jump priests:175

Troops:10x jump marines 2x melta 1xpf-235
Troops:10x jump marines 2x melta 1xpf-235
Troops:10x jump marines 2x flamers 1xpf-225
Troops:10x jump marines 2x flamers 1xpf-225

Fast Attack: Vet vanguard 1x pf 2x pw 2x melta bombs-185
Fast Attack: Vet vanguard 1x pf 2x pw 2x melta bombs-185

Heavy support: 5x dev squad 4x ML-130

Snip

a few things id like to add are 1-2 stormraves with with ML and TL AC. Id also like to add in a bunch of assault termies thunderhammers and shields and some lighting claws. I dont care about it being able to destroy in tournaments( I rarely have time for them as is) Id also like to add in 1-2 Dakka baal preds.

I would like to drop the V.V and dev unit. What do you think Dakka?


First of all, your priests are overcosted by 25 points (not sure how you did that?)

Second, drop all the powerfists. They'll never get to actually hit anything. That's a leftover from 5th edition and not a good use of points at all. You save 120 pts from that if I'm not mistaken.

Next, don't bring Missile Launcher Devs. Also a leftover of 5th edition. Str 8 shooting is good if you have weight of it. 4 shots is not weight of fire. either upgrade them to Lascannons and take 5 extra bullet catchers to save your expensive heavy weapons or drop them. A min squad with missile launchers contributes nothing but a KP a game mode like that.

I like Vets but feel free to drop them as everyone else hates them.

Do take Storm Ravens, with AC/HB or LC and always go with the MM.

Do take Baal Preds but don't Dakka em up. Give em the Heavy Bolter sponsons but trade the TLAC for the Flamestorm Cannon. A scouting/outflanking, fast AV13 tank with a Str6 AP3 template weapon is nothing to sniff at.

Hammernators + Corbulo is an unstoppable rape train. Putting Gabriel Seth, Reclusiarch, or a Librarian with Unleash Rage knocks it up to 11. You can put them in Redeemer or a Crusader and they lose nothing and gain a lot of protection and mobility for it. At this point your unit is coming close to 700+ points though and you better commit hard to this strategy or it won't work.

More than all that, take what units you want and have fun!


I wasnt taking direct from the Dex, it was more off memory. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6602674.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6602674.page GMT Re:looking at changing up the ole BA jump army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6603088.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6603088.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6603644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6603644.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army
VV's can save your life...or you could gamble and lose. Do ya feel lucky punk? I think I'd shave points by running them naked as well, maybe just melta bombs, and use them to try to get in on troublesome shooty units or vehicles. If they fail, they're probably dead anyway, so the extra weapons will just be wasted points. If they succeed, they're all vets on the charge, so they're probably winning unless you went after an enemy melee unit for some ungodly reason.

In ASM squads I prefer double melta. double flamer is neat, but the squad itself IS an anti-infantry solution, so giving them meltas makes them a double threat. Flamers just makes them an even heavier anti-infantry solution.

I like running shield + sword powers on the libby rather than the lance. Also two libbies. I only run blood lance if I have a Dante deep strike death star so I can line up some beautiful multi-lance-hit across several things. And even then, psychic test + deny the witch + rolls to pen + saves is a lot of chances for the power to fail.

Bleh @ devastators. The ASM's should have enough meltas spread around that you don't need guys way in back camping out fishing for lucky shots.

And of course, the stormraven is a heavy contender for "king of the sky," and has always been my go-to for air supremacy. There's only two things that belong in it though. Hammernators and Mephiston, so you don't lose hundreds of points from the thing going down. Corbulo with hammernators is fun times.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6603685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6603685.page GMT looking at changing up the ole BA jump army My second power is either the Sanguine Sword or Fear of the Darkness. FotD has won me a couple of games by making enemy Terminator squad run off the table

But don't forget that you also get stuff from Divination. There are maybe two powers that aren't simply awesomeish!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6605317.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583116/6605317.page GMT