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				<title>1000pts Imperial fists (Provisional)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So with a brief look at the Space Marine codex and the Sentinels of Terra supplement I have made this list of 1000pts of Imperial Fists, I have already got Lysander and Squad Nidon as shown but i want to see other peoples impressions on this before i start buying more models...<br /> <br /> <u><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>:</u><br /> Captain Lysander-230pts<br /> <br /> <u>Troops:</u><br /> <u>Squad Nidon</u><br /> 10-man Tactical Squad<br /> Grav-gun<br /> Heavy Bolter<br /> Veteran Sergeant Nidon with a Chainsword, Boltgun and Melta-bombs<br /> 190pts<br /> <br /> <u>Squad Garadon</u><br /> 10-man tactical squad<br /> Heavy Bolter<br /> Flamer<br /> Sergeant Garadon<br /> 230pts<br /> <br /> <u>Heavy support:</u><br /> Hunter-70pts<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastator squad<br /> -2 grav-cannons+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amps</span><br /> -Sergeant with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(756);'>TLLC</span> and omniscope<br /> 260pts<br /> <br /> 980pts total<br /> <br /> Lysander acts as 3+ invuln Eternal Warrior cover for the Centurions while the hunter is my designated anti-air support and  the tactical squads claim objectives etc.etc. I expect to have a lot of trouble with horde armies with this list though which is something i definitely need to address...any suggestions?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ georgebaii]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1000pts Imperial fists (Provisional)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't see a problem with Hordes for this list... You've got two heavy bolters a flamer and Imperial Fists <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>. <br /> <br /> I'm not quite sure why you're taking Lysander in this list. I'm not sure what special rules he has over a normal chapter master because I don't have the new codex but you can get the regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> (or even a captain if you want to save even more points) with Termie Armor, power weapon (since he'll never be in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>) and Shield Eternal for 10 points less. And he can take an Auspex which makes your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Centurions even better (3 and 4+ cover saves are awesome, 5+ saves are mediocre, 6+ saves are a fething joke) and if you really really really gotta take a Pfist, Chainfist or Thunder Hammer, he has those options. He can also get digital weapons to reroll that pesky auto fail 1. And if you wanna go all in, you can even give him a better gun so he can pretend he was a Devestator at one point and that's why he hangs out with them and he can play point defence against all those funny orkses. (5 boltgun shots per turn up to 24" + rerolling 1s + overwatch fire is nothing to sniff at)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Mar 2014 13:21:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bocatt]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1000pts Imperial fists (Provisional)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3f50d261532ee7d6cb3c3e8ff9ed90ce.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583852/6615493.page"><b>bocatt wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't see a problem with Hordes for this list... You've got two heavy bolters a flamer and Imperial Fists <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>. <br /> <br /> I'm not quite sure why you're taking Lysander in this list. I'm not sure what special rules he has over a normal chapter master because I don't have the new codex but you can get the regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> (or even a captain if you want to save even more points) with Termie Armor, power weapon (since he'll never be in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>) and Shield Eternal for 10 points less. And he can take an Auspex which makes your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Centurions even better (3 and 4+ cover saves are awesome, 5+ saves are mediocre, 6+ saves are a fething joke) and if you really really really gotta take a Pfist, Chainfist or Thunder Hammer, he has those options. He can also get digital weapons to reroll that pesky auto fail 1. And if you wanna go all in, you can even give him a better gun so he can pretend he was a Devestator at one point and that's why he hangs out with them and he can play point defence against all those funny orkses. (5 boltgun shots per turn up to 24" + rerolling 1s + overwatch fire is nothing to sniff at)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm taking Lysander simply because I got him and he just looks awesome. Anyway i should tell you that because of the new rule in the terra supplement, any bolt weapons that are shooting at half their range can re-roll any misses to hit, making them more dangerous close up. Is there anything else to add...?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Mar 2014 14:14:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ georgebaii]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1000pts Imperial fists (Provisional)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I may be mistaken, but I think you need another troops choice.  If you upgrade a sergeant to sergeant Garadon, he and his unit change to an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Mar 2014 21:16:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gnomepoleon]]></author>
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