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- fixed HQ setup for the entire game (total point cost must be of 150 pts or less, no named charactersallowed purchased as army or otherwise)
-1500 total point lists.
-planets and missions will have random effects
-Players will be awarded for 10% of the total points killed by the HQ to spend on HQ upgrades (or dedicated ´retinue´ for the HQ) for future games. ie: if your HQ kills 200 points worth of the opponents force, he gets 20 points to his hq ´pool´ to spend.

the total players partaking are:

CSM (Me)
Necrons
Daemons
Space Wolves
Orcs or Space Marines + IG (Pending Confirm)
Dark Angels (Pending Confirm)
Dark Angels (pending confirm)


The HQ ive already submitted is:

Chaos Lord (150pts)
Juggernaut of Khorne, Mark of Khorne, Melta bombs
Axe of Blind Fury (35pts), Bolt Pistol

The first list i've come up with is somewhat experimental and i'm hopint it would do well in general vs any of them but any input to the list would be appreciated be it in general or vs a specific army, i would veyr much appreciate help vsnecrons as this player is the most 'powery' player of them all, using a large number of teleporting lords with MSS and that pokeball tezzeract thing...

on to the list! (first match seems to be vs the wolves),


HQ

Chaos Lord (150pts)

Juggernaut of Khorne, Mark of Khorne, Melta bomb, Axe of Blind Fury, Bolt Pistol

Sorcerer (147pts)
Additional Mastery Level, Mark of Tzeentch, Spell familiar
Terminator Armour
Combi-flamer/-melta/-plasma, Force Weapon

Troops (480pts)

Khorne Berzerkers (Troops) (240pts)

9x Khorne Berzerker
Berzerker Champion
Bolt Pistol, CCW, Melta Bombs
Chaos Rhino
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers

9x Khorne Berzerker
Berzerker Champion
Bolt Pistol, CCW, Melta Bombs
Chaos Rhino
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers

Fast Attack (201pts) - to go with lord... i don't have nor like spawns

Chaos Bikers
5x Chaos Biker, Mark of Nurgle, 2x Meltagun
Chaos Biker Champion
Champion of Chaos
CCW, Combi-flamer, -melta, -plasma, Melta Bombs

Heavy Support

Defiler (195pts)


Obliterators (228pts)
Mark of Nurgle , 3x Obliterator

Fortifications (Fortification) Selections:



Aegis Defense Line - manned by sorcerer at an objective
Gun emplacement with quad-gun

as any khorne list, the idea is to get in theirface asap... the big guns are there for support fire and dealing with MC's (daemons), armor (necrons - wolves).

whya sorceror at the aegis? i lik to have a good shot and the necron player likes to steal fortifications, at least this way hes going to have to earn his free quadgun


PS. I Don't have a heldrake but i do have a predator on the bulding line (i dont like to play unpainted). on the rest of the available toys: maulerfiend, 3 daemon princes, 20 something plague marines, helbrute and tons of marines, 15 termies and 5 raptors

edit: removed points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6622875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6622875.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623062.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623062.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
warren0110 wrote:
Looks pretty solid, however you will need to remove all the individual points costs


edited the list to remove indivudal points, new to posting hehe]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623128.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623128.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
Normally I'd stick with normal chaos marines over berzerkers. Cheaper and have access to more goodies.
You might need more fire power to tackle air units considering daemons with wings or multiple flyers, try autocannon havocs or a forgefiend.

Overall a pretty cool list mate. Good luck ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623669.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623669.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome MoK lord can't ride with MoN bikers. I don't know if you changed the rule]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623682.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623723.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6623738.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
 Dr. What wrote:
How do you have a Khorne Lord in a Nurgle Squad of Bikers?


yea, realized it as i read it - going to change those for some spawns (ew) ...




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khaoschaos wrote:
I'd put in a helbrute, have him guard your objective. Give him a plasma cannon so he could shoot up anything with 2+ armour. Plus it's 36" range compared to most necrons 24". And if he deepstrikes models then a hit will kill over half his men.

Normally I'd stick with normal chaos marines over berzerkers. Cheaper and have access to more goodies.
You might need more fire power to tackle air units considering daemons with wings or multiple flyers, try autocannon havocs or a forgefiend.

Overall a pretty cool list mate. Good luck


i do usually enjoy plasmabrutes trying to figure out how to include him


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khaoschaos wrote:
I'd put in a helbrute, have him guard your objective. Give him a plasma cannon so he could shoot up anything with 2+ armour. Plus it's 36" range compared to most necrons 24". And if he deepstrikes models then a hit will kill over half his men.

Normally I'd stick with normal chaos marines over berzerkers. Cheaper and have access to more goodies.
You might need more fire power to tackle air units considering daemons with wings or multiple flyers, try autocannon havocs or a forgefiend.

Overall a pretty cool list mate. Good luck


i do usually enjoy plasmabrutes trying to figure out how to include him ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6624257.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6624257.page GMT Re:[Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
I generally go with 5x, MoK, 2x Meltagun, Champion w/ LC/PF + gift, with one of the bolter dudes sporting the icon of wrath. comes out 10 pts more than your MoN dudes, but have a but more of a punch in CC, plus the champion can fend for himself in CC usually, especially if you get a 2+ save or an extra wound on him from the gift.

For the quadgun, why not get a helbrute with a reaper cannon? Then you get an extra 2 autocannon shots, albeit snapshots, at fliers. If you really want the sorc, why not give him MoN and have the oblits sitting nearby, so he can attach to them if need be, or, if he gets zott'd, the oblits can then man the gun.

Lastly, I'd consider some sort of invuln on your Juggerlord. at least the 5++ for him.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6624340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6624340.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome MCs, light tanks or lone characters ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6625759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6625759.page GMT Re:[Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
im still thinking of changing the sorc's mark since im not looking for any cult spells

HQ (297pts)
Chaos Lord (150pts)

Juggernaut of Khorne Mark of Khorne (), Melta bombs ()

Axe of Blind Fury (35pts),
Sorcerer (147pts)

Additional Mastery Level (), Mark of Tzeentch (), Spell familiar ()
Terminator Armour
Combi-flamer/-melta/-plasma, Force Weapon

Helbrute (120pts)
Missile launcher w/ frag + krak (), Plasma cannon ()

Khorne Berzerkers (Troops) (240pts)
9x Khorne Berzerker
Berzerker Champion
Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs
Chaos Rhino


Khorne Berzerkers (Troops) (240pts)
9x Khorne Berzerker
Berzerker Champion
Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs
Chaos Rhino

Fast Attack (90pts)

Chaos Spawn (90pts)
3x Spawn


Defiler (195pts)

Obliterators (228pts)

Mark of Nurgle, 3x Obliterator

Aegis Defense Line
Gun emplacement with quad-gun]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6625800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6625800.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
Overall a much better list, nice ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6626008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6626008.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
khaoschaos wrote:
Is this full points? Could you spare 5pts for defiler, then when or if you charge it, the enemy cannot overwatch.

Overall a much better list, nice


thanks!

maybe if i drop a berzerker from one of the troops i can pimp defi and maybe the champions]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6626187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6626187.page GMT Re:[Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome MoK bikers, thus removing the aegis / sorc and spawns (didnt get my hands on models on time), so;

juggerlord

helbrute (plasma + missles)
cultists x 10
berzerkers x 10
berzerkers x 10

bikers x 6

Predator (full las)
defiler
MoN obliterators x 3

enemy for game 1 was space wolves and won, he ended up playing all infantry.... he dropped a pod with this warlord and i think was a wolfguard? (7 dudes, 2 with termi armor and all of them with combi meltas) behind defi and blew him up on his turn 1, my juggerlord and bikes turned around to deal with these guys before they tore up poor oblits / brute / predator but i wasnt able to save the predator.

up above, he blew open my rhinos with zerkers and charged at them - i won the charges and cleared 2 of his units - next turn i charged on his 2 remaining units (1 was as new, with 10 dudes, 1 flamer 1 plasma) and the other was a devastator unit (with a termi with cyclone missles and power weapon) - i lost both units.

he then deepstriked a 10 man assault squad which took a flamer to my cultists, they were greeted with plasma from oblits and helbrute (this was turn 5), so on his turn 5 he desperatley shot helbrute (my mistake since i gave his back to the devastators) and assaulted on the cultists....

he won by 1 point to my count since he didnt want to check the dice to see if the game continued to T6.

game was purge the alien ~ dawn of war...

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643225.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643225.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643251.page GMT Re:[Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643274.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643381.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643381.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
The issue I have is bezerkers in rhino's. Once they get out they can't charge the same turn. That means they have a turn of standing in the open being shot at as the enemy moves further away. Then they MIGHT get to make a charge and get overwatched....you might then be hitting with a lot less bezerkers, if any at all.


yea, thats pretty much what happened... but i have a hard time getting a LR into a 1500 point match i was hoping my lord would be a sufficient distractor to the zerkers but i did'nt count on a drop pod with his lord and guard ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643402.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643445.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643445.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome
 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
Yeah. My main list is 1500 points and has 2 land raiders. But the issue is the model count becomes tiny. I'm trying to work on a chaos all foot list with zerkers to see if I can get it to work... I'm not sure I'll be able to. I'll be posting it up soon though, and I expect it'll get slammed!! We'll see!!


be sure to PM me about it =D and LR vs necrons or daemons are just a giveaway]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643550.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6643550.page GMT [Chaos SM 1500] Local Campaign attempt, advice welcome imo I rather take a csm and give them mark with icon to wreck havoc because you can drop them from a rhino and rapid fire then counter assault. If your looking for some real fun, try droping the defiler and helbrute and pick up maulerfiends or forgefiends. dirge casters are a must for this list. Power weapons are nice also for the champs of the squad since they have to challenge and if they live, easy buff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6645571.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584272/6645571.page GMT