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				<title>1250/1750pt Flying Circus List help wanted</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Okay so  there's a tournament in may where you run two games at 1250pts then two more at 1750pts where your 1750pt list has to include your 1250pt list with no alterations to the units in it. I figured this could be a good chance to experiment with a flying circus style list and wanted some feedback/thoughts.<br /> <br /> 1250pt List<br /> Daemons<br /> Fateweaver 300pt<br /> 2*Daemonettes(10) 180pts<br /> Daemon Prince (DoTz, Wings, Armour, ML3, greater & exalted reward) 355pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Allies<br /> Be'lakor 350pts<br /> Cultists(10) 50pts<br /> <br /> Total 1235pts<br /> <br /> Add on option 1<br /> Daemon Prince (DoS, Wings, Armour, ML3, greater & exalted reward) 340pts<br /> Helldrake(Baleflamer) 170pts<br /> <br /> Add on option 2<br /> Lord of Change (ML3, 2 greater rewards) 295pts<br /> Cultists(10) 50pts<br /> Helldrake(Baleflamer) 170pts<br /> <br /> So quick break-down/discussion between the 2 options, the Slaanesh Daemon Prince has both Lash of Despair (12" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2d6</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span>:User <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>Ap</span>:-) and the portaglyph (a 1HP av12 vehicle that produces <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span> troops on a 4+ each turn). Generally he'll take triple biomancy looking for iron arm (which makes lash Str7-9) which gives me some ranged anti-tank while the portaglyph shores up my lacking of troops.<br /> <br /> Alternatively a Lord of Change has a superior statline (T6 W5), however only has access to divination/tzeentch powers, and is only more surviviable if he rolls well for the greater rewards/divination powers, and has access to shooting to flickering fire (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2d6</span> Str5 Ap4 shots for one warp charge, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(2);'>3d6</span> shots for warp charges etc) with the saving in points I can take a 2nd cultist squad.<br /> <br /> Personally I like the anti-tank from lash and the synergy from having potentially 6 rolls on biomancy (from both daemon princes) which allows me to crack tanks without having to land and assault, however divination is an amazing discipline and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> is less susceptable to instant death. Not really sure which one to go for.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(442);'>ps</span>. Be'lakor is basically a winged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> with ML3, fearless, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, knows the entire telepathy discipline and gains d3 warp charges if you opponent fails a morale check in his turn and his fancy sword has +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span>, fleshbane, armourbane, master-crafted. So he also works well with endurance from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> to keep him healthy. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Mar 2014 01:29:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CaptainJay]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1250/1750pt Flying Circus List help wanted</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You need both grimoire and portalglyph. So that's 2 exalted rewards. It is important for you to get a standard access to troops as daemonettes are squishy even though they rock in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. Getting some horrors from portal is nice. las/slaanesh prince is good mostly for anti/air/tank. Do you think you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> as allies so much? I mean you can do without Be'lakor right?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Mar 2014 07:21:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ avedominusnox]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1250/1750pt Flying Circus List help wanted</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0c83017bf9ebb3a4badcc706a4664eac.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584508/6627814.page"><b>avedominusnox wrote:</b></a><br/>You need both grimoire and portalglyph. So that's 2 exalted rewards. It is important for you to get a standard access to troops as daemonettes are squishy even though they rock in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. Getting some horrors from portal is nice. las/slaanesh prince is good mostly for anti/air/tank. Do you think you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> as allies so much? I mean you can do without Be'lakor right?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yep and I have both the grimnoire and portaglyph @ 1750pts, at 1250pts I can choose which I'd prefer, there's also restricted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> in the smaller games (1HQ, 0-2 Elites/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span>, 2-4 Troops).<br /> <br /> Daemonettes over horrors is a personally preference, mainly because they're faster, so if they deep-strike in they can run out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> quite easily, I know I only have 3/4 squishy troops but I don't imagine many people will get chance to shoot at them (will be reserved/hidden out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>).<br /> <br /> I know lash prince is good anti-tank (I believe I said so in the original post), I was wondering about running a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> instead and if it would be able to fufil the role. I'm thinking if I can get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> into rear armour then most things are only av10 so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(545);'>FF</span> should be fine, however the positioning is tricky with only a 24" move, where as Lash prince can attack most tanks (particularly if he gets iron arm from any angle) but is 'easier' to kill.<br /> <br /> Helldrakes are awesome (hence the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> allies), I've been trying Be'lakor over Black Mace prince, because he's slightly cheaper and has <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> so less susceptible to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span>. Also it means I can grimnoire fatey, invisisbility Grimnoire Prince and hide be'lakor which means I have two 2 units on a 2+ re-rollable (one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span>, one cover), I think Be'lakor is fragile, but having access to the entire telepathy domain is very useful.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:18:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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