<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "The Empire and the Industrial Revolution"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net The Empire and the Industrial Revolution GW's refusal to move their settings forward aside, just how far is the Empire (arguably the most progressive faction in Warhammer) from beginning the Industrial Revolution, and how will this affect them (and the other factions) politically, militarily, and economically?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6642781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6642781.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
The main difference with the Dwarves that makes the Empire seem more progressive is that they're willing to experiment, but steam power isn't by any means a common thing in the Empire beyond the military and certain areas of Nuln and the capital.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6642855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6642855.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution IRL should be 15-16th Century, so two maybe three hundred years isn't all that far to me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6642903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6642903.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution Oh and Europe sure had its share of conflict, but the guys invading didn't want to eat your children and erase you from the surface of the earth either. That's gotta keep anyone busy ...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6643117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6643117.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
 Admiral Valerian wrote:
And their gunpowder technology? The corresponding era IRL should be 15-16th Century, so two maybe three hundred years isn't all that far to me.


Empire guns are nearly the same as the start of the 17th century (when prototype Gatling cannons started showing up)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6643156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6643156.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
 Admiral Valerian wrote:
And their gunpowder technology? The corresponding era IRL should be 15-16th Century, so two maybe three hundred years isn't all that far to me.


They've had that same gunpowder tech for more than 300 years according to the fluff.

The major problem with determining when they'll enter something close to the Industrial revolution is that pretty much every major technological advancement they have was either given to/stolen by them from another civilization(steam power, gun powder, rockets) or are one time moments of brilliance whose methods to be mass produced are lost or non-existant(Steam Tanks, clockwork horses). Also, whilst the College of Engineers has the technology, it's far from wide spread. Most armies you see on the board may have black powder weapons, but fluffwise, they're relatively rare outside of the richest provinces. The poorer provinces can only afford a couple cannons and maybe 20 or so handguns for their most elite/favored regiment unless they get enough hunters bringing their own firearms to form a handgun regiment.

Ironically, the most progressive(in terms of developing new technology) are actually the Skaven, not the Empire. Sure, they steal technology from other races, but their rate of working to improve and experiment with those devices is at a much faster pace than humanity.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6643382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6643382.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6645966.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6645966.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646233.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
KeyserSoze wrote:
Skaven are more steampunk themed. Faaaar more interesting kind of technology. But what about Ogres? Where did they find the gunpowder? And why are their gunpowder weapons so reliable and strong?


Ogres got gunpowder in Cathay, which is the same place the Helstorm Rocket Battery was taken from.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646283.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646283.page GMT Re:The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
The empire is meant to be a off shoot of the Holy Roman Empire during the renaissance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646310.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646499.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646499.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646503.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
 Admiral Valerian wrote:
So five or six centuries away then...not all that far.


Again, not really. The time it took us is not equatable to the Fantasy world. The Empire has been at the same tech level for centuries without very many advancements.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585390/6646728.page GMT The Empire and the Industrial Revolution
Their historical time line is SOOOO different from ours. Because like, they have gods. Real gods who do real stuff. Like turn their faces into butts.

Necessity is the mother of invention. But the Industrial Revolution was about trade and manufacture for the most part. Those are not what the Empire is focusing on. They could care less about making a train and laying tracks. Or putting down telegraph wires. I'm sure Orcs would be super impressed by all that and leave them alone...
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