http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net IG style. Not nearly as much shooting but, hey, we're not Tau, you know. Granted it's also a ton of kill points so I'd loose that game handily but it is between 13 and 16 scoring units...

So, obviously, dudes ride in their chimeras trying to live through 4 turns, penal dudes outflank and PCS are valk riders that hop out on turn 5 and flame whatever is on the objective. Meanwhile each infantry unit can put out 2 S7 48" shots, 3 S6 36" shots, 3 S5 36" shots, 3 S3 24" shots at full ballistic if the chimera doesn't move.


What a mess...

HQ: Company Command Squad, Krak Grenades, Autocannon, Chimera

Troops: Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command Squad, Flamer, Heavy Flamer
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera

Troops: Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command Squad, Flamer, Heavy Flamer
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera

Troops: Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command Squad, 2x Flamer
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera
Infantry Squad, Axe, Autocannon, Chimera

Troops: Penal Legion Squad
Troops: Penal Legion Squad

Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship, 2x heavy bolters
Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship, 2x heavy bolters
Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship, 2x heavy bolters]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649650.page GMT
That is a ton of scoring. Pretty much a leafblower list from 5th ed IG, no? While this might present an overwhelming amount of units for Deathstars to deal with, it kinda seems like it would fall over to a more balanced Tau or Eldar list. A serpent is pretty much guaranteed to take down a chimera a turn and it looks like you'd pretty much have to put all your auto cannons into one to take it down. 8 autocannons = 16 shots = 8 hits = 1.3 glance and 1.3 pens before 4+ cover save. Can't discount the Vendettas though, they 'd do some work. 9 TL lascannon is never something to sneeze at. From the Tau end of things, SMS always ruin a guardsmen's day, and there's usually enough skyfire/EWO that your Vendettas are going to have a tough time as well. Still though, there's only so many turns to deal with 8 Chimeras plus your 3 flyers and all of the aforementioned contents.

I brought a similar style of list to a 1500 pt tourney at my LGS recently. Something like 55+ marines all in rhinos. I got 2nd place just by dying relatively slowly and sitting on objectives Anywho good luck with it, I know playing DeathStar 40K can be frustrating.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649733.page GMT
Here's the article I was referring to: http://www.torrentoffire.com/3873/can-msu-work-in-deathstar-40k I like it - definitely a ton of S5 TL ignore cover shots. I have about half the models for that one and I have roughly half the models I need for this one (come on who owns 9 chimeras anyway) and with IG on the cusp of getting a new codex I'd rather beef up my IG army in anticipation of good stuff arriving in the next month or two

I also added HB sponsons to the valks for even more dakkadakka!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649785.page GMT TL ignores los and cover is kind of gross lol. I think the list could use a couple more suicide fusion suits though. Having the fusion on the warlord just seems like handing that point over. That said I like the list. I just don't like that I like it. Tau ruffle my jimmies dammit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649817.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649830.page GMT TFC's and pretty much call it a day.

So for 1600 points you can grab:

Khan
4x [5 bikes w/ 2 grav guns]
2x [5 bikes w/ 2 Melta, melta bombs]
3x Storm Talon w/ Skyhammer
3x TFC


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I wonder where shadow sun goes in that list as well? Seemed like a kind of out of place choice for the second HQ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649854.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649854.page GMT inq side he had a stormraven carrying some DAs and a techmarnine carrying an assortment of grenades. That was a brutal list. I almost beat him once with my 3xdreadknight + SW list but normally that list does kick ass...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6649889.page GMT
I was winning the game by turn 5 holding all three objectives, slay the warlord and line breaker. Did it end on turn 5? No, of course not. By turn 6 I was still winning with two objectives and one secondary. Did the game end? No, of course not! Turn 7 he killed my remaining troops and ended up winning on the secondaries of first blood. Had this been an actual tournament I would have won big time due to time restraints - we would have ended on turn 5.

My take aways for the list is I needed more melta - plain and simple. On turn 5 my remaining two PCS hopped out of their vendettas and were presented with AV11 rear armor of two russes. What did I have in the old list? Flamers. So I've added a melta gun to the PCS units and dropped a flamer.

HQ: CCS, Astropath

Troops: PCS, 2x flamer, Melta
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Melta, Chimera
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Melta, Chimera

Troops: PCS, HF, Melta
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Melta, Chimera
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Melta, Chimera
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Melta, Chimera

Troops: PCS, HF, Melta
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Chimera
Troops: IS, Lascannon, axe, MB, Chimera

Troops: Penal Legion Squad
Troops: Penal Legion Squad

Fast Attack: Vendetta, 2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Fast Attack: Vendetta, 2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Fast Attack: Vendetta
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\]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6693479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6693479.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6693598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6693598.page GMT BS, so 1 Hb has to snap shot, so maybe drop them for more points?

If you drop them you can throw 4 meltas into your CCs which is death to knights or any super heavy really.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6693673.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/585735/6693673.page GMT