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Farseer;
-Jetbike
-Mantle of the Laughing God

5 Dire Avengers;
-Wave Serpent
-Holo-fields
-Scatter Lasers

5 Dire Avengers;
-Wave Serpent
-Holo-fields
-Scatter Lasers

5 Dire Avengers;
-Wave Serpent
-Holo-fields
-Scatter Lasers

5 Dire Avengers;
-Wave Serpent
-Holo-fields
-Scatter Lasers

4x Jetbike Squadron
-Shuriken Cannon

4x Jetbike Squadron
-Shuriken Cannon

Fire Prism;
-Holo-fields

Fire Prism;
-Holo-fields

Wraithknight
-Two Heavy Wraithcannons (considering sun cannon, shield, scatter laser combo for 60 points here)

So yeah, thoughts on what to add would be great.




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Other considerations for where to spend the points;

Cheap Autarch (reserve manipulation to keep jetbikes out as long as possible)
One unit of Dire Avengers at full strength (push off objective)
Cheapest possible Crimson Hunter (AA capabilities)
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1) I would drop laughing mantle on the farseer. Mobile psychic enhancement is nice, I'll give you that. But you have plenty of Wave Serpents that are far from full. Just put him on foot and stick him in one of those, no need to spend 40 points unnecessarily.
2) If you really want mantle in this list I would slap it onto an Autarch. Jetbike, Mantle, fusion gun is a killer tank hunting unit. Give him Shard of Anaris and he won't be a slouch in melee either.
3) Crimson Hunter!!!!!!!! 179 is literally JUST short for an exarch, but whatever. If you want you can drop upgrades or something on another unit to free some points.
4) I prefer squadrons of 2 War walkers over Fire prisms, actually. Sure the prisms have a better gun, but they're pretty fragile and won't be that hard for dedicated tank-hunting units to kill off. Unless you're depending on the Wraithknight to soak up all of the hard-hitting firepower, in which case I guess it wouldn't be too bad. If you want to go with walkers, though, squadrons of 2 with dual bright lances each is pretty nasty, or you can pay a pretty penny to throw on an EML and scatter laser on each of them. I also know you've said you don't want to drop units, but hey just throwing it out there.
5) A simple solution is to increase the size of the jetbike squads. Never hurts to have more super mobile scorers


Well, that's my two cents. Cheers]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657569.page GMT mos survivable he can be. The big thing about the Prism over the Walkers in this list is walkers have great anti infantry, and more hull points, for same points. But I am getting a 4+ cover, and a better gun out of the fire prism. Fire prism is the most effective answer I have to heavy armour (S9 AP1 Lance), is great against marines (10 man tourney I went to today had 6 marine players, like WTF?), and is longer range. I can park a Fire Prism far further away from my opponent then a War Walker can be, and in a tournament setting, a War Walker can only hit as many guys as he has shots, against certain armies, the shots are almost useless because either their aren't enough for horde armies (dual star cannon) or aren't powerful enough to pop tanks and heavy infantry reliably (some form of shuriken cannon, scatter laser combo), all that tied up in a 5+ save, the word is meh. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657612.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657612.page GMT
Kick your bike squads up to six and put a second cannon in. Put Shuriken Cannons on all of those Serpents. That's 128 tic-tacs, giving you 51 more to futs around with.

Suncannon would be solid on the WraithKnight for some more AP: 2 since you've got the solid anti tank. (never take the sword. Ever. Evereververeverever.)

With all those serpents, AA shouldn't be a huge concern. But if you're really scared of the thought of that IG vendetta ruining your day, then the Crimson Hunter can't be beat. (Seriously, 9 games and I've only lost it once. To Tau. Imagine that.) However, if you're sinking the points into it make it BS 5. (In other words, you're gonna have to drop something for this.)

P.S. Thank you for noticing how awesome Fire Prisms are. All the Eldar Players in my circle tell me they're days are over and I seem to be the only one who disagrees sometimes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657729.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657729.page GMT
You might also consider other passengers for your serpents. Some fire dragons perhaps? Wraithguard with cannons?
That way you have some anti-armor that can be in your opponents face in turn 2 (12" + 18" move turn 1. 6" disembark + weapon range turn 2.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657761.page GMT I'd take min sized Jetbike units and consider Fire Dragons in a Serpent or Guardians in a Serpent.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657817.page GMT AA ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657882.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586199/6657882.page GMT