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500 point list:
(499)

HQ
Chaos Lord - 65

TROOPS
Cultists x 12 - 58
Cultists - 11 - 54

FAST ATTACK
Heldrake w/ Baleflamer - 170

HEAVY SUPPORT
Obliterator w/ Mark of Nurgle - 76
Obliterator w/ Mark of Nurgle - 76

So I understand this to be a fairly powerful list, however i feel it could be optimised better. It seems i'm investing 165+ Points in simply gaining the ability to access the heldrake and double obliterators. I understand cultists can be a slight nuisance, but is there any way to make this a more effective unit instead?

1000 Point List
(999)

HQ
Chaos Lord w/ Terminator Armour & Mark of Nurgle - 120

ELITES
Terminators x 5 w/ Mark of Nurgle - 187

TROOPS
5 x Plague Marines w/ 2x Plasma Guns & Rhino - 185
5 x Plague Marines w/ 2x Plasma Guns & Rhino - 185

FAST ATTACK
Heldrake w/ Baleflamer - 170

HEAVY SUPPORT
Obliterator w/ Mark of Nurgle - 76
Obliterator w/ Mark of Nurgle - 76

The thing that worries me in this list is the lack of troops. I was thinking of maybe dropping 2 terminators and adding more marines to each plague squad. Opinions?

Thanks in advance,
Charlie]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6658788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6658788.page GMT CSM can get".

I wouldn't bring my Heldrake in a 500 pts. game, that's mean. In such a small game I'd suggest investing more in the HQ and Troops choices, but the Obliterators are okay.

I think you might remove 2 Terminators in favour of 3 additional Plague Marines. A retinue of 3 MoN Termies should be enough for your Lord in a 1000 pts. game. Otherwise, the list looks strong and the Heldrake doesn't feel cheesy anymore.

Can't really see what is "Word Bearers" in your army, they're supposed to be more Undivided than the Black Legion. Picking Death Guard, or perhaps one of the Nurgle Warbands would be much more fitting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6658854.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6658854.page GMT
I might add that my immediate friends are playing Tau, Tyranids, Orks and Dark Eldar so quite the variety. However the meta at the local gaming store seems to be mostly consisting of space marines.

I originally was going to field a variety of the Gods elites in my army, however I imagine that my intrigue in the survivability of Nurgle has led me astray. I suppose i could wonder more towards that of Death Guard, and any other units that i may field that are not dedicated to Nurgle are simply unlikely allies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6658997.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6658997.page GMT . But let's try to make do without one:

HQ:
Chaos Lord w/ Terminator Armour & Mark of Nurgle - 120

Troops:
Cultists x 12 - 58
Cultists x 11 - 54

Elites:
Terminators x 3 w/ Mark of Nurgle - 113

Heavy Support:
Obliterator w/ Mark of Nurgle - 76
Obliterator w/ Mark of Nurgle - 76

That would be 497 pts. total.

You could also get rid of the Terminators, attach the Lord to a Cultist squad and use the leftover points for a Plague Marines squad, for instance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6659077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6659077.page GMT Thank you very much saris for your quick responses, you have given me all I needed to move forward.

Charlie]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6659275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6659275.page GMT
HQ: Chaos Lord, MoN, PF
Troops: 5 Plague Marines
Troops: 5 Plague Marines
Fast Attack: Heldrake (Baleflamer)

5 plague marines are stronger than 15 cultists! You get fearless, feel no pain, blight grenades and plague knives along with 24" bolter fire.


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Oh, and it's 500 points exactly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6659360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6659360.page GMT
I agree it probably best not to show up to a 500 point game with a Heldrake.

Plague Marines definitely trump Cultists, especially if you are taking a Lord. Just put MoN on him and your PMs are Troops.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6660162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6660162.page GMT
At 500, you can go one sorcerer, 2x10 cultists and 2 heldrakes. Remember, people won't want to play you if you are always bringing the best possible list. Just ask before you do it. Don't be that guy. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6660347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6660347.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6660922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586302/6660922.page GMT