Waaaghpower wrote:
Should I just grin and ignore it?

 Zande4 wrote:

Waaaghpower wrote:
Should I just grin and ignore it?

Yes

 Smokeydubbs wrote:
Frankly, he wan't TRYING to give bad advice. He's been playing for ever and has won tournaments.

Before trashing his talk, give him a couple more games. He's able to beat the one dude's Eldar with the Wave Serpent spam and WKs. All with that same mostly fluffy Nurgle list.

He's well intentioned so just be polite if you disagree. He's also a hard ass, so I would stay away from openly disrespecting him.

Waaaghpower wrote:
At the LGS I recently started going to, there's a guy who helps run all the 40k league stuff. He's also apparently really good, to the point where you get bonus points in the league if you beat him. (It's more complicated than that, but I don't feel like explaining the details. He's really good.) After playing games, he traditionally gives pointers on how his opponent could have not lost as badly.
It was doubles night for the 40k league, two 1k teams. We both brought SoB, and ended up playing against him on his own. (This was voluntary, we were given the option to play against a normal team but wanted the challenge.) He brought Rhino/Nurgle Marines, my ally brought a bunch of Exorcists and Battle Sisters. I brought minimal troops, Celestine, and allied in a 700 point Inquisition deathstar with Coteaz, Priests, a Xenos Grenade-spam Inquisitor, Death Cultists, and Crusaders in a LRC with Psybolts and a Multi-Melta.

Long story short, we won. I caught him with his pants down, he had never played against an Inquisiton-Star before, assumed it was a big scary distraction beatstick, and I killed something like 20+ Nurgle Marines, a Predator, two Nurgle Lords, and a Hellbrute once I got to the meat of his army. (The Hellbrute and one Lord were technically alive when he surrendered at the end of turn 4, but with one Hull Point on the Brute, and I was in position to easily finish off the second Lord.)

And then he started giving bad advice. He's a nice guy, he wasn't being rude or anything, but it seemed a little odd that he was warning me against killing units he had bought as distractions or tarpits... When he literally had nothing left on the board to shoot at. If it had been a 6 turn game, I can garuntee he would have been wiped. He also said that 2 Tri-Las Predators were not something we should have worried about killing, and that we should have played to the mission more. (It was the 2-objective mission. We had all our Battle Sisters in a defensive formation around our objective, and my scoring Inquisitorial Squad had dug out an enormous chunk in his army, ending up right next to his objective by the end. (Admittedly, I only had 2 Priests left as far as scoring models go, but he had nothing left.)
He also said that if he had gotten better dice it would have gone differently... Though the main reason I hadn't finished him off sooner was a single failed Look Out, Sir! from the only S8AP2 weapon he had fired at my Inquisitory squad ended up killing Coteaz.

Long story short, I don't know how I should deal with this. He had some good advice, but all of it was related to psyching out your opponent. His actual tactics were mediocre, and not helpful in the slightest. Should I just tell him I don't want advice? I'm new to the group and I don't want to seem arrogant... It was also a closer game than I usually play, which was exciting, so I don't want to avoid playing him in general. Should I just grin and ignore it?

 SHUPPET wrote:
Good on you for giving this ego jockey a beating. Next time be sure to politely extend all your advice to him, such as "you might have actually won, had you not interrupted me when I was politely explaining my list to make this game go smoother for everybody".

 Lobukia wrote:

 SHUPPET wrote:
Good on you for giving this ego jockey a beating. Next time be sure to politely extend all your advice to him, such as "you might have actually won, had you not interrupted me when I was politely explaining my list to make this game go smoother for everybody".

I disagree. Out nice them. Being a jerk to a jerk doesn't prove or improve anything.

Waaaghpower wrote:
He really wasn't rude, or even arrogant, I think the idea of losing was just so foreign to him that he didn't think it was possible. He acts like sort of a patron adviser of new or up-and-coming players, and he actually did give me some useful tips a few weeks ago.
As an interesting note: His giving advice to me, and assuming that I would follow it, was a major part of his downfall. A lot of his advice revolves around scare tactics and drawing enemy fire onto scary bur non-threatening targets. He thought my Deathstar was supposed to be one of those scary magnets, (and even commented near the start of the game 'So it's a big, scary threat?' or something like that.)
This let me move closer without him doing a thing to react. It also helped that he didn't think anyone was capable of killing 14 Nurgle Marines and a Lord in one turn...

Makumba wrote:
Ever thought that maybe both of you playing sob made him not bring his best army ? Stuff like tri las preds are rather bad units and it doesn't seem like he had enough helldrakes , he also took fluffy troop choices instead of the normal cultists. He took a hellbrute for Christs sake , it doesn't get any more casual then that. Did he at least play Crimson Slaughter for the uber lord and divination ?