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I got now around 1k Eldar army. Trying to reach 1850 with following list. Any thoughts?

I do not want SeerCouncil or BeastStar but i think that with lvl4 psyker (lesser chance for seer council to deny), hit and run from Baron and Missfortune I can cause some ]:-) issues to top builds.

HQ
-Eldrad Ulthran
-Seer, Shard, Jetbike
Troops
5xAvengers, Serpent (Holo Field, Scatter Laser)
5xAvengers, Serpent (Holo Field, Scatter Laser)
20xGuardians, 2x Bright lance, Serpent (Holo Field, Scatter Laser)
3x bike
3x bike

HS
Wraithknight (stock)
Wraithknight (stock)

Ally DE
-Baron

Troops
5x Kabalite warriors

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You would be better off with, a mantleseer to go up with WKs while eldrad stays with guardians.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6667519.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6667519.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6667540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6667540.page GMT AS for most of the unit, regardless try it out and let us know how it does.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6668416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6668416.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6668906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6668906.page GMT HQ's attached to?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6669017.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6669017.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6669029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6669029.page GMT Don't under estimate 40 BS4 Bladestorm shoots (where they could be with ignore cover, reroll to hit, reroll to wound etc). In advance i can still sit back and enjoy 2 bright lance opening vehicle with perfect timing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6670343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6670343.page GMT MEQ units thats 3.3 wounds with a 1/3 chance of 1 being AP2.

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Even if you get the powers you want, ideal circumstances being "Fortune, Forewarning, Prescience, Perfect timing", there's just not enough damage output in the unit. You'd have to charge them up the table, and T3 5+ bodies, even with 4+ cover, just isn't survivable, just to get to 12'' range and get beaten with a much better tarpit. A previous poster is right, you will not be able to get enough guardians into 12'' range to really lay the hurt on something.

Outside of 12'' range, your 205+155+220+105=685 point unit is contributing two bright lances to the game, as your opponent just avoids that 12' range.

If you are going to do this, find the points for a warlock for the blob. Warlocks are worth much more when they're protecting a bunch of models.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6672515.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586795/6672515.page GMT