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				<description><![CDATA[ My Belial gets owned.  I run him stock with super scratchy sword and storm bolter of mediocrity.   Been avoiding <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> but am ready to give in. <br /> <br /> How do you outfit your Belial and why?<br /> <br /> Thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:31:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Surrounded by Knights with T5 and a 3+ invulnerable save.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:38:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i was hoping not to hear that suggestion...<br /> <br /> I like my scoring units in the real reason i don't use them but for cheaper points they are better than generalist <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> units.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:51:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run Belial with DWKs and it seems to work out well. Remember, DWKs while not scoring, are also denial units and can capture line-breaker. As long as you have enough scoring elsewhere you should be fine. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:01:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ IndigoJack]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Specifically Belial though... is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> the only way to go? Is there any value in his Sword/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span> combo that I am not capitalizing on? <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Can you mix sword with a storm shield? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:27:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/24b50949850e4aa6ccaca5fc7a88492f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586965/6671043.page"><b>Deuce11 wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Can you mix sword with a storm shield? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> dunno... what does your codex say?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:34:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586965/6671076.page"><b>viewfinder wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/24b50949850e4aa6ccaca5fc7a88492f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586965/6671043.page"><b>Deuce11 wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Can you mix sword with a storm shield? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> dunno... what does your codex say?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> cute ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:58:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/24b50949850e4aa6ccaca5fc7a88492f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586965/6671381.page"><b>Deuce11 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586965/6671076.page"><b>viewfinder wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/24b50949850e4aa6ccaca5fc7a88492f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586965/6671043.page"><b>Deuce11 wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Can you mix sword with a storm shield? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> dunno... what does your codex say?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> cute </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> did you find the answer?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:36:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The benefit of the sword is that Belial chews up 90% of the infantry in the game and at I5, WS6, and 3 base attacks he does a pretty good job of it. Forget his warlord trait, Belial really should never be hunting warlords, it's just going to cost you your warlord]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:31:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ IndigoJack]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you're looking for some semblance of competitiveness then <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> on Belial is an absolute must.  I would never run him with claws and I would only run him with Sword and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span> in a fluffy game.  There's something really disappointing about getting insta-gibbed by a techmarine 'cause you can't get past his 2+ save and you fail your 4++ on his counter-attack.  Yes you lose the initiative advantage but you're most likely gonna be on foot anyway and will often assault through cover (without grenades) so you might as well swing hard and have better durability.<br /> <br /> The Knights are debatable, I personally would never use them without a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> (again from a competitiveness standpoint).  They're way to easy to stay away from when they're <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>'ing or footslogging and you NEED the charge (and extra attack) when you're going after that big scary unit that you're gonna use beastmode on.  So <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> is a must for them (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>) usually buffed by an Interrogator-Chaplain or Librarian.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Mar 2014 04:01:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ phoenix darkus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I ran through the options yesterday and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> is really the only way to go.<br /> <br /> for the cost of nothing...<br /> <br /> you gain:<br /> 3++ (over 4++) invul save.<br /> +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span><br /> Concussive<br /> <br /> you lose:<br /> Initiative 5<br /> <br /> you maintain:<br /> Wounding on 2+ (Fleshbane vs S8)<br /> Number of Attacks (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span> is not a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>)<br /> WS6 (unaffected)<br /> <br /> Time to start converting!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:55:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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