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				<title>2000 point Ultramarine list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Tooled up CDR on Bike, shield eternal, fist<br /> Tigurius<br /> 4 Centurions. grav cannons, missiles<br /> 5 units of 5 bikes, 3 with 2 meltaguns each and an attached <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> attack bike, two with two flamers and no attack bike<br /> 2 Storm talon with skyhammer missiles<br /> 2 Thunder fire cannon<br /> <br /> The bike commander tanks for the centurions, breaking off to support troops when needed<br /> <br /> Tigurius helps the Talons come on to the table when its best for them and buffs the Centurions.<br /> <br /> I went with bikers over tacticals because I prefer mobile <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>'s and 24inch movement over squishy rhinos (first blood).  Though I do wish I had more bodies in this list.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:12:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kaiservonhugal]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why take ultramarine tactics? Iron hands would be a better option and be like tiggy is out testing new psychic mojo for the day.<br /> <br /> As for the list, it looks great.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:37:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok.   If i took an Iron Hands commander or White Scars or even Raven guard, on a bike - would this allow the troops i need to take with Tigurius be mounted on bikes or would they need to be straight up tactical marines?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:41:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kaiservonhugal]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 point Ultramarine list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't believe you would be able to take that list of it wasn't UM. If you went allies you still new a troop, and you can't take bike troops without a bike <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>. That said, the list looks good. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:47:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AtariAssasin]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The real question I have is:   Are the centurions worth it?  I could drop Tigurius and the centurions and net over 500 points for more biker troops and still have enough for a large unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LotD</span> or Sternguard or Vanguard.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 18:06:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kaiservonhugal]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why change a thing? Keep it the same but just change tactics, I have read through the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> codex and it doesn't say you can only field tiggy in a UM  list,]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:29:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Find and read the rules for focus-firing targets with cover saves.<br /> <br /> Long story short, take off the bike.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:52:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ obsidiankatana]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @ Arbiter<br /> There's a little icon by his profile that shows the Ultramarines symbol, and that means you're using Ultramarine Chapter Tactics (it's in there, characters are bound to a specific <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> I think it's page 76 or something?).<br /> <br /> @ obsidiankatana<br /> Yeah, I second the problem with the Chapter Master on the Bike being ignored to focus fire on the other troops without a jink save. If you take him off the bike, you can't have bikes as troops then either... gonna be an issue.<br /> <br /> @ kaiservonhugal<br /> Sure you could drop Tiggy, Centurions and the UM Chapter Tactics and make just a bike list... but then that's just a bike list... completely different than what you originally wanted. If you're interested, just look up the cookie-cutter White Scars bike lists out there... pretty straight forward. I would encourage trying to get creative and stay the course... try allying in an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> on a bike to get some troops and maybe change your UM Chapter Master to an on-foot Storm Shield guy?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:15:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ xTHExCLINCHERx]]></author>
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