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				<description><![CDATA[ This was my current 1000 list<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>					<br /> Librarian (Shield of Sanguinius, Blood lance) 100<br /> 					<br /> Elite					<br /> Furioso (Frag cannon, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>) on pod 170<br /> 					<br /> Troops					<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 (librarian goes here)<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165<br /> 					<br /> Sniper squadx5, cloaks	90<br /> 					<br /> Fast attack					<br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145<br /> 					<br /> TOTAL	1000<br /> <br /> And now I´m thinking of something like this (I´d like to reuse most of my current minis)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>					<br /> Librarian (Shield of Sanguinius, Blood lance) 100<br /> 					<br /> Troops					<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 (librarian goes in here)<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165<br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165<br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165<br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165<br /> 					<br /> Sniper squadx5, cloaks	90<br /> 					<br /> Fast attack					<br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145<br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145<br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145<br /> 					<br /> Heavy support					<br /> Stormraven , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 200<br /> Stormraven , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 200<br /> 					<br /> TOTAL	1850<br /> <br /> I´m not experienced at all yet but I´d like these lists to be as competitive as possible. <br /> <br /> C&C and thx in advance.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:16:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, that looks about as good as anything else you can do with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 5 Apr 2014 20:45:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Could be decent.  I'd combine the assault squads on the 1850 list.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry for using an old topic. <br /> <br /> Can sternguard vets on pod plus libby (terminator armor, divination) or Corbulo have a place in the 1850 list? something like 9 sternguard (say 2 combi-melta, rest normal bolters) by dropping a baal pred and maybe an Assault squad. Have to do maths.<br /> <br /> I love the models and they might add some spice to the list but I have 0 experience with them. Suggestions?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:12:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I have a list build around 8 X sterngaurd 8 X combi-melta, Corbs, libby with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(433);'>SoS</span>. Is it incredible? No. Can it cause some problems? Sure. The rest of the list is fragnoughts and jumper ASM and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> attack bikes. <br /> <br /> This kind of list is really unfortunate for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> list counting on helldrakes to win it for them. Especially if one gets delayed on reserve rolls. By turn 3, most of my stuff is in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>HTH</span> and inelligible for flaming. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:15:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isnt 8 combi-meltas a bit too much? and I guess only normal bolters can use special ammo right?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:20:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ valkyriePROfail]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/fb01d28697708400f098f39e86156e6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588303/6753142.page"><b>valkyriePROfail wrote:</b></a><br/>Isnt 8 combi-meltas a bit too much? and I guess only normal bolters can use special ammo right?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No, combis can. Stormbolters can't. 8 combi-meltas is great! You can reliably kill any regular vehicle or cripple squads that rely on 2+ save W2. And you guys don't kill themselves!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:05:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588303/6753356.page"><b>Martel732 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/fb01d28697708400f098f39e86156e6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588303/6753142.page"><b>valkyriePROfail wrote:</b></a><br/>Isnt 8 combi-meltas a bit too much? and I guess only normal bolters can use special ammo right?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No, combis can. Stormbolters can't. 8 combi-meltas is great! You can reliably kill any regular vehicle or cripple squads that rely on 2+ save W2. And you guys don't kill themselves!</div></blockquote><br /> I take note. The whole squad is 325 points and im not even counting libby/corby, but might be worth it against certain lists. For now I gonna get my first 5 men squad and think about the final loadout. Thanks for the info.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:20:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I finally decided to run a 2000 points with Sternguard assistance.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>	<br /> Librarian (Shield of Sanguinius, Blood lance) 100 <br /> Librarian (terminator armor, storm shield, divination) 145<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Sternguardx9, combi-wpnx9 (possibly 6 meltas and 3 flamers) on pod 305 (Libby in terminator armor in here)<br /> <br /> Troops	<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 (librarian in here) <br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 <br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 <br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>       165 <br /> <br /> Sniper squadx5, cloaks	90 <br /> <br /> Fast attack	<br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145 <br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145 <br /> <br /> Heavy support	<br /> Stormraven , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 200 <br /> Stormraven , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 200 <br /> <br /> TOTAL	2000<br /> <br /> Thoughts?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:MEQ BA from 1000 to 1850</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What about giving the one or both baals flamestorm cannons and outflanking them. I know that puts a lot into reserves though. I have had good results with them ouflanking then flaming everything on the sides of the table<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ STick with dakka baals. Flamers baals are suicide tanks. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> can't afford suicide units, ergo putting Corbs in the STernguard. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Termi armour libby can't fit in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> with 9 Sternguard.  Termi armour take up 2 spots.  Drop a sternguard for him or drop him altogether and take Corbulo.  3+ 2+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span> makes him a tank for anything not S8+]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588303/6757372.page"><b>optimusprime14 wrote:</b></a><br/>Termi armour libby can't fit in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> with 9 Sternguard.  Termi armour take up 2 spots.  Drop a sternguard for him or drop him altogether and take Corbulo.  3+ 2+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span> makes him a tank for anything not S8+</div></blockquote><br /> Yeah I didnt realize about it. I think I gonna pick Corby since I already own the mini.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>	<br /> Librarian (Shield of Sanguinius, Blood lance) 100 <br /> <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> Corbulo 105<br /> Sternguardx5, combi-meltax5 on pod 185<br /> <br /> Furioso (frag. cannon, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>) on pod 170<br /> <br /> Troops	<br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 (librarian in here) <br /> Assault squadx5,	meltagun, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 <br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span>	165 <br /> Assault squadx5,	flamer, on razorback, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(239);'>LAS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>PLAS</span> 165 <br /> <br /> Sniper squadx5, cloaks	90 <br /> <br /> Fast attack	<br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145 <br /> Baal predator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>	145 <br /> <br /> Heavy support	<br /> Stormraven , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 200 <br /> Stormraven , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 200 <br /> <br /> TOTAL	2000<br /> <br /> Hoping there is no problem with having Corby, a sternguard squad and a fragnought all together. I really like the list as it is right now.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588303/6756906.page"><b>steve2112 wrote:</b></a><br/>What about giving the one or both baals flamestorm cannons and outflanking them. I know that puts a lot into reserves though. I have had good results with them ouflanking then flaming everything on the sides of the table<br /> </div></blockquote>Yeah I thought about it and I like outflanking flamestorm baals but I´ve had bad experience with them (little <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(346);'>exp</span> tho) . <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> is rarely a bad option and as Martel pointed out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> have too expensive units to even try suicidal stuff.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run a flamer Baal pred and it dies every time don't try that. Everything else seems solid though.]]></description>
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