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				<title>Flier Dedicated Roles</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Common complaint: "Why is the Vendetta so good at anti-air?! It's a ground support craft!"<br /> <br /> Well, because of the rules. So, here's a proposed fix;<br /> <br /> The following Fliers gain the "Strafing Run" rule:<br /> <br /> Valkyrie, Vendetta, Doom Scythe.<br /> <br /> The following Fliers gain the "Sky Hunter" rule:<br /> <br /> Lightning, Nightwing, Night Scythe, Razorwing (and probably others, but not the Thunderbolt, because it's a dual role fighter-bomber)<br /> <br /> Sky Hunter: Each turn, the flier may choose between a +1 bonus to their Ballistic skill when using the Skyfire rule, or a +1 bonus to their Cover save against shots fired by enemy fliers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:52:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Furyou Miko]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Flier Dedicated Roles</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This just makes the problem worse. The new Vendetta isn't any worse at killing other aircraft, but now it's even more powerful against ground targets and an even more obvious choice. To fix the problem you need to combine it with making the ground attack aircraft worse against flyers. For example, give them strafing run but make them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 2 by default. Now the Vendetta keeps its current firepower against ground targets, but gets significantly worse against other aircraft.<br /> <br /> And of course this doesn't fix the Lightning at all, but that's a problem with it being a neglected 3rd edition design, not your specific changes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 5 Apr 2014 23:19:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Peregrine]]></author>
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				<title>Flier Dedicated Roles</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alternately take the route 4e Apocalypse did with Flyers and don't give them Skyfire by default, require them to have weapons with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> rule to take on other planes (Necron Flying Circus and Guard Air would be a lot less scary if they had to rely on dedicated <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> planes instead of cleaning up with Vendettas and Doom Scythes against all targets).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Apr 2014 07:15:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<title>Flier Dedicated Roles</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Why add complex rules when increasing the point cost would be a simple way of fixing the issue?<br /> <br /> With 3 twin-linked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> and transport capacity + whatever more it has, bump up the cost to about 150'ish pts. This would be a more balanced cost compared to the other codices.<br /> <br /> However, even with the point increase, if you compare the following:<br /> <br /> Vendetta: flier (forcing opponent to bring <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span>), 3 twin-linked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>,  10 men transport capacity - 150 pts<br /> Predator: vehicle (forcing enemy to bring anti-tank), 1 twin-linked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> - 140 pts<br /> <br /> The Vendetta is still vastly superior since the it forces the opponent not only to bring anti-tank (which is standard) but also anti-air.<br /> For this reason I would like to see all fliers in all codices getting their points bumped up by about 50 points (except for the fliers that already are over-priced).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:15:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ flodihn]]></author>
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