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				<description><![CDATA[ I just redid my 1999pt tournament list.  Any thoughts/suggestions/possible weaknesses are welcome.<br /> <br />     * Chapter Tactics<br />         Iron Hands<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> + (230pts)<br /> <br />     * Chapter Master (230pts) <br />         Artificer Armor, The Shield Eternal , Thunder Hammer <br /> <br /> + Elites + (390pts)<br /> <br />     * Sternguard Veteran Squad (195pts) <br />         4x Combi-Melta, 4x Veteran <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Boltgun, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Sternguard Veteran Squad (195pts)<br />         4x Combi-Melta, 4x Veteran <br />         * Drop Pod<br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Boltgun, Chainsword<br /> <br /> + Troops + (850pts)<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (185pts) <br />         Meltagun, 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (185pts) <br />         Meltagun, 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (185pts)<br />         Meltagun , 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (185pts) <br />         Meltagun, 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (110pts) <br />         Flamer, 4x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack + (180pts)<br /> <br />     * Assault Squad (90pts) <br />         Flamer, 4x Space Marine<br />         * Drop Pod<br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt Pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Assault Squad (90pts) <br />         Flamer, 4x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod<br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant<br />             Bolt Pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br /> + Heavy Support + (345pts)<br /> <br />     * Devastator Squad (185pts) <br />         4x Lascannon , 4x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolter, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Devastator Squad (160pts) <br />         Missile Launcher w/ flakk , 3x Multi-Melta, 4x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> And alternatively I run the same list without the missile launcher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad, i replace two lascannons with flak missiles in the second squad, and take a dark eldar ally with the Baron as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> and a base squad of kabalite warriors to help get first turn.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591420/6754429.page"><b>ghilliemarine wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> And alternatively I run the same list without the missile launcher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad, i replace two lascannons with flak missiles in the second squad, and take a dark eldar ally with the Baron as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> and a base squad of kabalite warriors to help get first turn.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Heresy!!!!!!]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1999pt SM Iron Hands Drop Pod Assault</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I really like that list but it feels like your running a Salamander list with Iron Hands tactics.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:42:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I kind of am but i like that every one of my marines has feel no pain and my chapter master almost never dies. 2+/3++/6+++ With eternal warrior, adamantium will, feel no pain, and it shall not die.  And my drop pods are a little stronger than the standard because of the it will not die rule. I just like the tactics better than salamders. <br /> <br /> Plus the Iron Hands paint scheme looks sick when 11 drop pods come down on the field <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How will you handle fliers?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/15812f6cfb7ba8b56633dd561666898d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591420/6758322.page"><b>Loricatus Aurora wrote:</b></a><br/>How will you handle fliers?</div></blockquote> 2 devastor squads]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:27:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You only have a single flak missile for anti air. If it was a single dakka jet you may kill it luckily. But a storm talon or raven would laugh. And the helldrake would not get touched.  <br /> <br /> I like the list, but let's face it. Us drop pod armies will always lack in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> it seems.  Can't counter everything. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also you should put a extra Flamer in the assault squad. No reason not to add another flamer. 5 pts for 2 flamey goodness<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:38:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would be 1 point over with that other flamer.  Also 4 lascannons even though they hit on 6`s can work for flyers.  And true flak doesnt work for everything but it helps.  Its not perfect for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> but im not worried about 1 heldrake wrecking my army.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:59:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[     * Chapter Tactics<br />         Iron Hands<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> + (230pts)<br /> <br />     * Chapter Master (230pts) <br />         Artificer Armor, The Shield Eternal, Thunder Hammer<br /> <br /> + Elites + (400pts)<br /> <br />     * Sternguard Veteran Squad (205pts) <br />         4x Combi-Melta, 4x Veteran <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Chainsword, Combi-Melta <br /> <br />     * Sternguard Veteran Squad (195pts) <br />         4x Combi-Melta, 4x Veteran <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Boltgun, Chainsword<br /> <br /> + Troops + (794pts)<br /> <br />     * Scout Squad (120pts) <br />         9x Scouts, 9x Sniper Rifle <br />         * Scout Sergeant <br />             Sniper Rifle<br /> <br />     * Scout Squad (119pts) <br />         9x Scouts, 8x Sniper Rifle<br />         * Scout Sergeant <br />             Sniper Rifle<br />    <br />      *Tactical Squad (185pts)<br />         Meltagun, 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (185pts) <br />         Meltagun, 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Tactical Squad (185pts) <br />         Meltagun, 9x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod <br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack + (180pts)<br /> <br />     * Assault Squad (90pts) <br />         Flamer, 4x Space Marine<br />         * Drop Pod<br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant<br />             Bolt Pistol, Chainsword<br /> <br />     * Assault Squad (90pts) <br />         4x Space Marine <br />         * Drop Pod<br />             Storm Bolter<br />         * Space Marine Sergeant <br />             Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Combat Shield <br /> <br /> + Heavy Support + (320pts)<br /> <br />     * Predator (150pts) <br />         Extra Armour, Lascannons, Twin-Linked Lascannons <br /> <br />     * Stalker (85pts) <br />         Extra Armour <br /> <br />     * Stalker (85pts) <br />         Extra Armour <br /> <br /> Fortifications (Fortification) Selections:<br /> <br /> + Fortification + (75pts)<br /> <br />     * Skyshield Landing Pad (75pts) <br /> <br /> I just play-tested this list and i think i am lowering the number of pods.  Basically stragety for it is stick everything without a pod on the skyshield for the 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span>. Save.  And drop the assault squads/sternguard round 1.  The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads support as needed and capture objectives.  The stalkers are for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> and the pred is anti tank/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>mc</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 May 2014 00:06:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ghilliemarine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think your first list was good, just had to swap out the assault squad for two Storm Talons with Sky-hammers.  Maybe drop that second devastator squad to fill in the points for the flyers and an Aegis Defense Line for additional Anti Air, you could of course man the space marine devastator sergeant on the Quad gun.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 May 2014 17:07:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ morky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Anybody have any suggestions or theories on the second list? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 May 2014 14:55:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ghilliemarine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the second list, but I'm not a fan of the scouts with sniper rifles in this case. Once your main scoring troops are on the ground, they aren't very mobile... such is the plight of the drop pod lists. I would consider using a land speeder storm with heavy flamer and some bolter or close combat scouts in it for deep striking late game (hopefully) to steal an objective or two. One of those rings in at about 100 points, so it should be a fairly even trade, albeit lighter on bodies...<br /> <br /> I also think the drop pod squads should load up on as many special weapon shots as they can so your initial strike has more impact. Perhaps you can find some points to give the sgts combis to match the meltas in the units? Also, when combat squadding on the drop you'll be able to have one squad put out 2 melta shots and a crack grenade, and the other focus on troops with bolter shots and another crack grenade. and even screen a charge? Either way, combis may be a good idea, or at least melta bombs for those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>.<br /> <br /> Can the skyshield be outfitted up with any weapons?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 May 2014 16:08:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ xTHExCLINCHERx]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591420/6800812.page"><b>xTHExCLINCHERx wrote:</b></a><br/>I like the second list, but I'm not a fan of the scouts with sniper rifles in this case. Once your main scoring troops are on the ground, they aren't very mobile... such is the plight of the drop pod lists. I would consider using a land speeder storm with heavy flamer and some bolter or close combat scouts in it for deep striking late game (hopefully) to steal an objective or two. One of those rings in at about 100 points, so it should be a fairly even trade, albeit lighter on bodies...<br /> <br /> I also think the drop pod squads should load up on as many special weapon shots as they can so your initial strike has more impact. Perhaps you can find some points to give the sgts combis to match the meltas in the units? Also, when combat squadding on the drop you'll be able to have one squad put out 2 melta shots and a crack grenade, and the other focus on troops with bolter shots and another crack grenade. and even screen a charge? Either way, combis may be a good idea, or at least melta bombs for those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>.<br /> <br /> Can the skyshield be outfitted up with any weapons?</div></blockquote>the scouts are just a filler for my skyshield so noone can ds onto it.It cant be outfitted with weapons either or i would have stuck a quad on it <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>.  And the alpha strike already has 9 meltas and two flamers.<br /> <br /> The second assault squad doesnt have the combat shield it has a flamer.<br /> <br /> And i realize its a litle slow moving for objectives but i deploy close enough to them to that i can pretty much negate that. ]]></description>
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