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				<description><![CDATA[ Space Marines<br /> 1849/1850pt.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> <br /> Chief Librarian Tigurius <br /> Power armour; Bolt pistol; Hood of Hellfire; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Rod of Tigurius;<br />  <br /> Troops<br /> 10x - Tactical Squad <br /> § 1x Veteran Sergeant; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Power fist; Plasma pistol;<br /> § 1x Space Marine ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Multi-melta;<br /> § 1x Space Marine; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Plasmagun;<br /> § 7x Space Marine; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Boltgun;<br /> § 1x Rhino; Storm bolter; Smoke launchers; Searchlight;<br /> <br /> 9x - Tactical Squad <br /> § 1x Veteran Sergeant; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Combi-melta; Power weapon;<br /> § 1x Space Marine; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Meltagun;<br /> § 7x Space Marine; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Boltgun;<br /> § 1x Rhino; Storm bolter; Smoke launchers; Searchlight;<br /> <br /> 9x - Tactical Squad <br /> § 1x Veteran Sergeant ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Power weapon; Combi-melta;<br /> § 1x Space Marine Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Meltagun;<br /> § 7x Space Marine; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Boltgun;<br /> § 1x Rhino; Storm bolter; Smoke launchers; Searchlight;<br /> <br /> 10x - Scout Squad <br /> Camo cloaks;<br /> § 1x Scout Sergeant ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Sniper rifle; Bolt pistol;<br /> § 9x Scout ; Scout armor; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Sniper rifle;<br />  <br /> Fast attack<br /> 8x - Bike Squad <br /> § 1x Biker Sergeant ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Space Marine bike; Twin-linked boltgun; Power weapon; Melta bombs;<br /> § 2x Space Marine Biker ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Space Marine bike; Twin-linked boltgun; Bolt pistol; Grav-gun;<br /> § 5x Space Marine Biker ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Space Marine bike; Twin-linked boltgun; Bolt pistol;<br /> <br /> Stormtalon Gunship <br /> Ceramite plating; Twin-linked assault cannon; Skyhammer missile launcher; <br /> Thunderfire cannon <br /> <br /> § 1x Techmarine gunner ; Artificer armour; Bolt pistol; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Servo-harness;<br /> Thunderfire cannon <br /> <br /> § 1x Techmarine gunner ; Artificer armour; Bolt pistol; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Servo-harness;<br /> <br /> 5x - Devastator Squad <br /> § 1x Space Marine Sergeant ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Signum; Boltgun; Bolt pistol;<br /> § 4x Space Marine ; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; <br /> 4x Lascannon;<br />  <br /> Fortification<br /> Imperial Bastion <br />  Heavy bolter(x4); Icarus lascannon;<br />  <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Ordo Xenos Inquisitor <br /> Psyk-out grenades; Caparace armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Force sword; Psychotroke grenades; Psyker; Mastery level 1; Servo-skull(x3);<br /> <br /> <br /> I don’t know if this would work I don’t play ultramarines and would love some suggestions thanks for any help, this is the army I would like to start as my next army <br /> Thank again <br /> Scott <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Apr 2014 14:16:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sassyyp]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 sm list how would this do?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Rhinos are very very weak. If you're gonna bring transports they should be Razorbacks, so you can at least have a Lascannon or Other heavy weapon to shoot with. The rest of your Marine squads on foot are too unprotected. Tau, Eldar, Deldar will all shoot your list off the board very quickly. If rework the list and get things in Drop Pods. Centurions are excellent footslogger with Grav Cannons and can ruin anyone's day, especially with Tigirius. Bike squad looks good too,even better with A Chapter Master on Bike with shield eternal and artificer armour. That gives that unit a wound tanker with a 2+/3+ That regains lost wounds. Not to mention the whole bike squad has jink saves. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> So far bike squad looks good. <br /> <br /> Rhinos are soft. <br /> <br /> Foots logging marines need protection<br /> <br /> One thunderfire should be enough unless you insist on two in which case go for it. Two is not bad. <br /> <br /> Storm talon is fine<br /> <br /> Scouts don't need camo cloaks. <br /> <br /> Are the devastators going on the Bastion? If so keep them, if not they need protection. They become target #1 if unprotected. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> With the changes see if you can't find a way to add a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> as described and make rhinos into either razorbacks or go drop pods. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:07:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FenrisianStuart21]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Rhinos maybe weak but they are cheap. Razorbacks don't offer any more protection over them and become far more expensive when you put a gun on them (Personally I am still a fan of them tho).<br /> <br /> Drop Pods are always the way to go, very reliable way of getting your units on target. I'd find some space for some sternguard if I were you too. Drop the scouts and a tactical squad if needs be. A 5 man scout squad can be good for hanging back and getting backfield objectives but I am not a fan of 10 mans.<br /> <br /> A final detail would be to remove superfluous items on your tactical squads. Veteran sergeant upgrade, plasma pistols, power weapons - all a waste, you are not charging with your multi-melta are you? Give them a combi-weapon and thats it. Preferably lined up with the squads weapons already - plasma + combi plasma, melta + combi melta etc.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:29:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ turgon868]]></author>
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