<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Legions

Exact figures for the martial strength of the Alpha Legion at the outset of the wars of the Horus Heresy are impossible to obtain. Sources and estimates vary wildly, some making extravagant claims which may both overestimate or undervalue the Alpha Legion's manpower. Most contemporaneous account around the time of the Dropsite Massacre put the Alpha Legion at between 120,000 and 130,000 Legionaries strong, placing it within the middle tier of Legion strengths. Some theorists have pointed the figure as far lower, somewhere in the 90,000 range based upon the largest concentration of Alpha Legion forces ever seen in operation in a single theatre. With hindsight and diligent corroboration however, evidence of multiple simultaneous battle-groups operating in far distant locales suggests a far higher figure than either of these estimates, well into the range of 180,000 Legionnaires which, if accurate, would make it one of the most formidable Legions in sheer size alone, a factor unguessed by both sides of the war that was to follow.


And I don't believe the Alpha Legion have lost that many marines since; The Faithless and the Shadowed Ones are the only splinter warbands afaik, AND they still have a minimum of one primarch. Counting later absorbed chapters (Emperor's Swords, Crimson Consuls) and more recruits, would I be correct in assuming the Alpha Legion numbers might actually be equal to that of the entire loyalist SMs?

Also, I'm wondering how you hide over 100k Alpha Legionnaires.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761268.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761268.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761283.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761283.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761289.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761289.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761302.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
Every Space Marine is Alpharius. It's all an Alpha Legion plot. Everything. Even the Tau are actually Alpha Legion Marines. The Hive Mind? Alpharius. Thrakka? Alpharius. All the Necron Phaerons? All Alpharius. That cat over there? Also Alpharius.

The Imperium, the Eye of Terror, the Tau Empire... the whole galaxy, basically, is AL-TV. Alpha Legion Television. All Alpharius, all the time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761318.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761422.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761431.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? SM. Or 10 billion. I don't know.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761464.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? AL's existence. So you might as well just move along, otherwise I your Commissar Lord may have to shoot you for disobeying an order.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761497.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
....three times!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6761713.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
If you observe Alpharius, then you find that the person you thought was him really isn't. However, if you don't observe Alpharius then he is everyone.



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762318.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762361.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762367.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762367.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762370.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6762925.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 LumenPraebeo wrote:
I don't believe them to number up to that many really, otherwise they would be causing much more trouble than they are currently.


Well, if they're doing they're job right, they don't want you do think they're causing much trouble.



The truth may be that they are.



Or not.



Or both.



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6763069.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6763069.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764379.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764379.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
But Alpharius likes to dick around the galaxy.

All of him.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764392.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764392.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764437.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764480.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764480.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? GW finds numbers hard.

The Alpha Legion is completely unknowable, however. We've got their "canonical" Heresy strength, but current fluff indicates the legion isn't as united as it once was, with some splinter factions falling wholly to Chaos, and other remaining the ambiguous 3rd party, loyal to one one save themselves and whatever their actual objective is. The most recent Heresy book by FW indicates that the AL set up a number of bases beyond the frontiers of the Imperium in the leadup to the heresy; safe redoubts and manufactories to support the legion wholly separate from everyone else. Chances are the core legion is still quite powerful, quite possibly the single largest cohesive astartes force in existance, working out of their own little empire beyond the light of the Astronomicon. That being said, 10,000 years is a very, very, very long time, and there's no saying what's really happened to them in all that time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764489.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764489.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 PaperworkNinja wrote:
The better question to ask is "How many Alpha Legionnaires can dance on the head of a pin?"


as many as want to infiltrate onto the pin]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764658.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
...so, really, who knows?

We'll have a better picture once BL actually finishes the HH Series and moves on to The Scourging.

But there have certainly been VERY heavy handed hints about a Civil War in the only Legion to have 2 actual brothers in it...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6764967.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? The Imperial Inquisition would like to remind you that there is no such thing as the "Alpha Legion". Any evidence, statements, records or pamphlets pointing towards the contrary are heresy and should be burned. All those who have participated in this discussion have had their names and citizen numbers logged. Any further discussion will result in capital punishment. You have been warned.


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 Alpharius wrote:
They've stayed out of the Eye, mostly...

...so, really, who knows?

We'll have a better picture once BL actually finishes the HH Series and moves on to The Scourging.

But there have certainly been VERY heavy handed hints about a Civil War in the only Legion to have 2 actual brothers in it...


There's actually a disturbingly decent amount of evidence at traditional games that Omegon became the first Grey Knights grand master. Though the list is probably mostly just for fun and highly unlikely to end up being the case (but not completely impossible), it's an interesting list of coincidences.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765060.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765075.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
This guy names Alpharius, or maybe it was Omegon, told me so.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765159.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765539.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 welshhoppo wrote:
No, I am Alpharius.


I'm Alpharius and so's my wife!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6765814.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Kain wrote:
The Alpha Legion actually outnumbers the Black Legion ten times over.

But Alpharius likes to dick around the galaxy.

All of him.

There is no Black Legion.
They are just a cover for Alpha Legion operations.
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TiamatRoar wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
They've stayed out of the Eye, mostly...

...so, really, who knows?

We'll have a better picture once BL actually finishes the HH Series and moves on to The Scourging.

But there have certainly been VERY heavy handed hints about a Civil War in the only Legion to have 2 actual brothers in it...


There's actually a disturbingly decent amount of evidence at traditional games that Omegon became the first Grey Knights grand master. Though the list is probably mostly just for fun and highly unlikely to end up being the case (but not completely impossible), it's an interesting list of coincidences.


I have heard that too - and I have to admit - I love it!

I hope it is true, whether it is Omegon or Alpharius, it would be....excellent!

JANUS indeed!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6767401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6767401.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6767422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6767422.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
Me.

I am Alpharius... so is your cat.
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 the shrouded lord wrote:
SAMUS IS HERE!



Well there goes the planet.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6776296.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6776296.page GMT Re:So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Kain wrote:
 the shrouded lord wrote:
SAMUS IS HERE!



Well there goes the planet.



Could be worse. Could have been Spaceballs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6776706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6776706.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
Truth be told, I prefer the blue bodysuit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777416.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Psienesis wrote:
Yep. There she is. That's Samus alright.

Truth be told, I prefer the blue bodysuit.

Generally speaking, my standard for form-fitting armor is the Crysis Nanosuit; form-fitting, but utterly nonsexualized. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777443.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Kain wrote:
 Psienesis wrote:
Yep. There she is. That's Samus alright.

Truth be told, I prefer the blue bodysuit.

Generally speaking, my standard for form-fitting armor is the Crysis Nanosuit; form-fitting, but utterly nonsexualized.


Say that to the nicely emphazised armoured codpiece.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090217202350/crysis/images/2/26/Crysis-US-Nanosuit-1324.jpg]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777451.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Ashiraya wrote:
 Kain wrote:
 Psienesis wrote:
Yep. There she is. That's Samus alright.

Truth be told, I prefer the blue bodysuit.

Generally speaking, my standard for form-fitting armor is the Crysis Nanosuit; form-fitting, but utterly nonsexualized.


Say that to the nicely emphazised armoured codpiece.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090217202350/crysis/images/2/26/Crysis-US-Nanosuit-1324.jpg

It's a step up from pointless ass-cleavage.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777458.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777458.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777763.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777763.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777769.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?

Pro-Tip: I'm not going to search the internet for Alpha Legionnaires in ass-cleaving armor.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6777792.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
Alpharius is dead.

3 times.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6778301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6778301.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 BrotherOfBone wrote:
They're the Omega Legionnaires now.

Alpharius is dead.

3 times.


That's what they want you to think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6778452.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6778452.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Happyjew wrote:
 BrotherOfBone wrote:
They're the Omega Legionnaires now.

Alpharius is dead.

3 times.


That's what they want you to think.


Nah, thats just what they want you to think they want you to think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6778470.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6778470.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Grey Templar wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:
 BrotherOfBone wrote:
They're the Omega Legionnaires now.

Alpharius is dead.

3 times.


That's what they want you to think.


Nah, thats just what they want you to think they want you to think.


Unless of course they want you to think that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6781874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6781874.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Alpharius wrote:
Staying on topic is rather important though.


While I agree, I still find it quite funny that you pointed out we should stop discussing cleavage and go back to spamming 'X is alpharius']]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782073.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Ashiraya wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Staying on topic is rather important though.


While I agree, I still find it quite funny that you pointed out we should stop discussing cleavage and go back to spamming 'X is alpharius'


That is because Alpharius wants to make sure that the (in)correct rumours about Alpharius are spread to the (in)correct people]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782457.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782457.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Happyjew wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Staying on topic is rather important though.


While I agree, I still find it quite funny that you pointed out we should stop discussing cleavage and go back to spamming 'X is alpharius'


That is because Alpharius wants to make sure that the (in)correct rumours about Alpharius are spread to the (in)correct people


Thats just what he wants you to think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782637.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Grey Templar wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Staying on topic is rather important though.


While I agree, I still find it quite funny that you pointed out we should stop discussing cleavage and go back to spamming 'X is alpharius'


That is because Alpharius wants to make sure that the (in)correct rumours about Alpharius are spread to the (in)correct people


Thats just what he wants you to think.


Or is it?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6782678.page GMT So... How many Alpha Legionnaires are there?
 Ashiraya wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Staying on topic is rather important though.


While I agree, I still find it quite funny that you pointed out we should stop discussing cleavage and go back to spamming 'X is alpharius'


I'm fairly sure I suggested no such thing - the only 'suggestion' I made was to stay on topic.

So, to that end, I'm looking forward to the end of the HH Series for many reasons, but one of the bigger ones is that 'The Scourging' should tell us a lot more about 'present day' Alpha Legion activities...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6788639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/591770/6788639.page GMT