<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive Yarrick 145
Primaris Psyker 50
Infantry Platoon, three infantry squad, three Lascannon 240
Veterans 60
Vendetta 170
Vendetta 170
Manticore 170
Manticore 170
Wyvern Battery 195

Inquisition
Coteaz 100
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor, three servo-skulls, psyker 64
Acolytes, Chimera, Heavy Bolter, Psybolt 72
Acolytes, Chimera, Heavy Bolter, Psybolt 72
Acolytes, Chimera, Heavy Bolter, Psybolt 72

Fortification
Aegis Defense Line, Quadgun 100

Coteaz and Yarrick go with the infantry blob, Primaris Psyker and Xenos Inquisitor go with Veterans in backfield sandwiched between Manticores. Primaris Psyker and Inquisitor cast Prescience on Manticores, Yarrick and Coteaz buff infantry blob.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6768808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6768808.page GMT Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive SWS squads in the Vendettas with Melta so that you have both a scary AT unit and a fast scoring unit, something else you lack.

2 SWS + Deathstrike, maybe? Lascannons on a BS3 model also seem like a waste. Drop down to Autocannons and go for volume for fire. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6768978.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6768978.page GMT Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive
 TheKbob wrote:
I feel like this list has a ton of anti-infantry to the nines, but lacking in anti-tank. Manticores just aren't kickin' it off for me, anymore. Maybe some SWS squads in the Vendettas with Melta so that you have both a scary AT unit and a fast scoring unit, something else you lack.

2 SWS + Deathstrike, maybe? Lascannons on a BS3 model also seem like a waste. Drop down to Autocannons and go for volume for fire.


Well, the lascannons in the infantry platoon are going to be getting twin-linked and monster/tank hunter, as well as split fire if necessary. That squad alone can reliably pop a tank a turn.

As far as Manticores go...they seem pretty vicious to me. Each will be twin-linked every turn. That's 2 sets of D3 twin-linked s10 missiles a turn. It can definitely put the hurt on vehicles and infantry. I think they synergism well with the Wyvern battery, allowing me to keep my artillery in the backfield and damaging everything on the table from the stat of turn one.

I'm not quite sold on the SWS with meltas, for two reasons. One, they suffer from the issue you ascribe to the Lascannons, they're BS3 which makes them unreliable. They are also unable to make a reliable early game alpha strike, on average not getting into position until turn three, which is often too late.

I could be convinced to take something aside from the Manticores, and will likely test a list that replace them with Pask in either a punisher or Vanquisher. However, they do seem to work well in this list, in my opinion.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6769026.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6769026.page GMT Re:Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive
Why not see if you can trim a bit to get some melta into the acolyte squads? In the codex inq book, the chimera still has 5 firepoints, right? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6769100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6769100.page GMT Re:Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive
 Elmir wrote:
I don't think a unit van benefit from more than 1 order? So giving your blob splitfire/tankhunter at the same time will be impossible.

Why not see if you can trim a bit to get some melta into the acolyte squads? In the codex inq book, the chimera still has 5 firepoints, right?


That's correct, I'd only be giving one of those orders per turn.

I'd be a fan of getting some melta into those squads. What would you try to cut?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6769111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6769111.page GMT Re:Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive
You are doing chimera/henchmen spam... While they do bring cheaper chimera's, I don't think you really NEED that in a AM army. Same with divination psykers. You don't need inquisitors or coteaz for that. Unless you are ofc desperate for that seize the initiative bonus...

And then go for more bodies in the form of heavy weapon teams to camp on baseline objectives? Some autocannons would be great for this list if you ask me (especially if you decided to dump some chimeras). They go really well behind the aegis defence line. You have plenty of S10/S9 already, some S7 that can benefit from your prescience would be awesome. One inquisitor could man your aegis quad gun.

Just 10 veterans naked also seems like a bit of a waste. Maybe look into those guys to operate your chimeras? While the number of firepoints are down, veterans with 2 melta's and cruising in fast moving chimera's and shooting the lasgun arrays at BS3 (even after moving 12") can give you some solid grabbers for further away objectives. Or maybe some special weapons squads to fly around in vendetta's with 3 cheap sniper rifles to jump out turn 5/6?


It seems you also missed the PCS? Or did I miss it? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6770014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6770014.page GMT Re:Astra Militarum and Inquisition 1850 Competitive
 Elmir wrote:
Actually, I wonder why you are bringing in the inquisition at all.

You are doing chimera/henchmen spam... While they do bring cheaper chimera's, I don't think you really NEED that in a AM army. Same with divination psykers. You don't need inquisitors or coteaz for that. Unless you are ofc desperate for that seize the initiative bonus...

And then go for more bodies in the form of heavy weapon teams to camp on baseline objectives? Some autocannons would be great for this list if you ask me (especially if you decided to dump some chimeras). They go really well behind the aegis defence line. You have plenty of S10/S9 already, some S7 that can benefit from your prescience would be awesome. One inquisitor could man your aegis quad gun.

Just 10 veterans naked also seems like a bit of a waste. Maybe look into those guys to operate your chimeras? While the number of firepoints are down, veterans with 2 melta's and cruising in fast moving chimera's and shooting the lasgun arrays at BS3 (even after moving 12") can give you some solid grabbers for further away objectives. Or maybe some special weapons squads to fly around in vendetta's with 3 cheap sniper rifles to jump out turn 5/6?


It seems you also missed the PCS? Or did I miss it?


So, Coteaz and the Xenos inquisitor are there essentially to support the blob and the artillery, the weakness of the Manticores and the blob are units that can get into your face before they get the chance to bring the pain. Manticores are particularly susceptible due to their minimum range. So, the Xenos inquisitor is only five points more than a primaris psyker and provides Servo Skulls to prevent a turn one scout rush or infiltrators. Coteaz offers protection against deep strike units or other backfield threats.

The Chimeras offer mobility in my list, and while I agree that vets in chimeras are awesome, I can fit three scoring acolyte squads in chimeras where I would only be able to fit one chimera vet squad. I can't put the naked vets in the chimera because I need them to house my additional inquisitor and primaris psyker and I can't buff the Manticores if they are in Chimeras (Manticores without Prescience are tough, Manticores with Prescience are devastating). The shooting on those acolyte chimeras is absolutely nothing to sneeze at either, with each getting six strength 6 AP 4 shots every turn.

Sadly, the PCS squad doesn't do too much in this list beside camp backfield objectives. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6770271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592135/6770271.page GMT