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				<description><![CDATA[ Question....<br /> <br /> So i was wonder where does it say a model has to be attached on a base in a specific way? i know you have to put them on the base provided but no where can i find where it needs to be X wide in the front. <br /> <br /> Here is my example. <br /> I have a cauldron of blood (the old style) and am putting it on the new base 60x100<br /> can i put it so the 100 side is on the front and the 60 is its flank?<br /> <br /> same could be said for the demigryphs or skullcrushers. <br /> <br /> dont get me wrong, i dont think it should be allowed but there are people who's philosophy is "it doesnt say i can't so.....". i just would like a clear cut ruling somewhere. if not i need to add it to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(755);'>NOVA</span> Primer]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They can model it sideways if they want, the front/flank/rear of the base isn't changing just because they modelled their toy this or that way]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think it's on the same page that says I shouldn't smash your models with a hammer when I kill them.<br /> <br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Warhammer doesn't spell out everything you can't do (you can't take all six of your turns in a row. You can't re-roll your dice until you get all 6's. You can't hit your opponent with your van after the match. You can't celebrate your victory by defying gravity and flying to the moon). It tells us what we can do. Permissive system.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6778556.page"><b>Warpsolution wrote:</b></a><br/>You can't hit your opponent with your van after the match.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Uh oh.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think this question however actualy has legs, there is not specified mounting of individual models on the bases that are provided, most are on equal sized bases so it wouldn't matter, others can only fit on those bases in one way (cavalry and chariots) but the bigger based stuff, like the hell canon can fit in either direction.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6778556.page"><b>Warpsolution wrote:</b></a><br/>You can't hit your opponent with your van after the match. You can't celebrate your victory by defying gravity and flying to the moon).</div></blockquote><br /> This was actually <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>'d, to say that it was indeed allowed. Just a damn shame the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQs</span> aren't up on the website anymore. Darn!  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 May 2014 18:17:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2d5bccdb298e8eb20da2d7fec067ebdc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6791279.page"><b>The Shadow wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6778556.page"><b>Warpsolution wrote:</b></a><br/>You can't hit your opponent with your van after the match. You can't celebrate your victory by defying gravity and flying to the moon).</div></blockquote><br /> This was actually <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>'d, to say that it was indeed allowed. Just a damn shame the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQs</span> aren't up on the website anymore. Darn!  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> You mean the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQs</span> on this page? <a href="http://www.blacklibrary.com/faqs-and-errata.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacklibrary.com/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faqs</span>-and-errata.html</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 May 2014 04:35:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b27da987094c113c70ce9fee02363a27.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6781194.page"><b>nutty_nutter wrote:</b></a><br/>I think this question however actualy has legs, there is not specified mounting of individual models on the bases that are provided, most are on equal sized bases so it wouldn't matter, others can only fit on those bases in one way (cavalry and chariots) but the bigger based stuff, like the hell canon can fit in either direction.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for actually replying to the question. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 May 2014 02:39:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a70d9ff92b53574c65ce182b5cbe7c4c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6795014.page"><b>chinsquaz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b27da987094c113c70ce9fee02363a27.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6781194.page"><b>nutty_nutter wrote:</b></a><br/>I think this question however actualy has legs, there is not specified mounting of individual models on the bases that are provided, most are on equal sized bases so it wouldn't matter, others can only fit on those bases in one way (cavalry and chariots) but the bigger based stuff, like the hell canon can fit in either direction.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for actually replying to the question. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He didn't answer the question. He just told you what you wanted to hear and you accepted it as truth.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6184388c6c8e1bfaf617cba1d09461bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6806969.page"><b>tjnorwoo wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a70d9ff92b53574c65ce182b5cbe7c4c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6795014.page"><b>chinsquaz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b27da987094c113c70ce9fee02363a27.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6781194.page"><b>nutty_nutter wrote:</b></a><br/>I think this question however actualy has legs, there is not specified mounting of individual models on the bases that are provided, most are on equal sized bases so it wouldn't matter, others can only fit on those bases in one way (cavalry and chariots) but the bigger based stuff, like the hell canon can fit in either direction.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for actually replying to the question. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He didn't answer the question. He just told you what you wanted to hear and you accepted it as truth.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I can't believe I have to say this, but page five of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>brb</span> tells you about arcs and which way a model faces on a base. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 8 May 2014 04:10:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/37c7d1abb00448dd90b1fcafa03e7a33.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6807041.page"><b>thedarkavenger wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6184388c6c8e1bfaf617cba1d09461bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6806969.page"><b>tjnorwoo wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a70d9ff92b53574c65ce182b5cbe7c4c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6795014.page"><b>chinsquaz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b27da987094c113c70ce9fee02363a27.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6781194.page"><b>nutty_nutter wrote:</b></a><br/>I think this question however actualy has legs, there is not specified mounting of individual models on the bases that are provided, most are on equal sized bases so it wouldn't matter, others can only fit on those bases in one way (cavalry and chariots) but the bigger based stuff, like the hell canon can fit in either direction.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for actually replying to the question. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He didn't answer the question. He just told you what you wanted to hear and you accepted it as truth.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I can't believe I have to say this, but page five of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>brb</span> tells you about arcs and which way a model faces on a base. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> you mean theres a book  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ -face palm-<br /> <br /> DiM]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/37c7d1abb00448dd90b1fcafa03e7a33.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6807041.page"><b>thedarkavenger wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6184388c6c8e1bfaf617cba1d09461bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6806969.page"><b>tjnorwoo wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a70d9ff92b53574c65ce182b5cbe7c4c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6795014.page"><b>chinsquaz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b27da987094c113c70ce9fee02363a27.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6781194.page"><b>nutty_nutter wrote:</b></a><br/>I think this question however actualy has legs, there is not specified mounting of individual models on the bases that are provided, most are on equal sized bases so it wouldn't matter, others can only fit on those bases in one way (cavalry and chariots) but the bigger based stuff, like the hell canon can fit in either direction.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for actually replying to the question. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He didn't answer the question. He just told you what you wanted to hear and you accepted it as truth.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I can't believe I have to say this, but page five of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>brb</span> tells you about arcs and which way a model faces on a base. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> then I suspect you missed my point.<br /> <br /> p5 says nothing about how you construct a model only about how a unit's faces are taken into account during the course of a game.<br /> <br /> there is nothing in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> that tells you how you should mount your models on their bases, I'll stick with my hell canon example:<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/11/29/3497_md-Chaos,%20Hellcannon,%20War%20Machine,%20Warhammer%20Fantasy,%20Warriors%20Of%20Chaos.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> OR<br /> <br /> <img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E3B__9ggb2c/UGtA7DJCNkI/AAAAAAAAD2E/nfu-NdxC40Y/s1600/DSC_0085.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <br /> which one is illegal as far as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> is concerned?<br /> <br /> neither, both are valid, one has a much wider frontage than the other but both are considered acceptable.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is this about the treeman again?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f5b2aa928f940f3f09a0d14f45a27875.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/592284/6915302.page"><b>HoverBoy wrote:</b></a><br/>Is this about the treeman again?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> almost certainly]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When I'm not certain, I look at how it's done in the instructions for assembly that come in the box.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The issue is that a model's construction is highly inferred but never explicit. For example a Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers does not state in the rules that it changes the model's base, you have to infer that you are required to find the physical model that the unit in question is being mounted on and do so. You'd have to find a model on shieldbearers (king alrik) and using that as an example, construct your own or use the special character as an unnamed character. <br /> <br /> But then there is the further issue after construction: determining which side of the physical model is the 'front'. The 'front' of the model is an artificial term and not dictated by the physical construction. Whilst the 'front' of the model is explained as a term with consequences, it is never stated how you determine which side of the physical model is the front.<br /> <br /> That's just an issue with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> rules, they don't really expect you to look into this so much as discuss it with your opponent beforehand, making the player do the legwork instead of the writers.<br /> <br /> Some may say that players don't need hand-holding rules to play, but this can have serious consequences game-to-game in different environments if all of your opponents do not come to the same agreement.]]></description>
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