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I'm going to start playing with Blood Angels as a second army to my Dark Eldars, and my first game will be versus Tau.
After reading codex and many comments about funny ways of playing Blood Angels an idea like this came up to my mind,
while thinking how to play with my opponent (he is also playing one of his first game's with Tau), so please comment my list
and tell me if i can do something in game with it, and the list:

HQ:
Reclusiarch
Plasma pistol

Elites
Brother Corbulo

Troops:
10xDeath company
2xpower fist
Land raider Redeemer
Multi-melta

2xDeath Company Dreadnought
Blood talons on both

Total: 1000 pts

My idea is to put Reclusiarch and Brother Corbulo with DC into the Land Raider, hide it in Reserves and then Deep strike it in the middle of his army, survive his fire, and in second turn move with LR disembark squad and charge into something.
He dont have Rapetides, only FW, broadsides and crysis. So what do you think about it. Do i stand any chances?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794136.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794136.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized
You have no scoring. DC aren't scoring, neither are dreads.

Curbulo doesn't do anything that important because anything over strength 7 will kill him, as you don't have an invul.

I would get a fragnought. A furioso with a frag cannon and a heavy flamer in a pod will make short work of firewarriors and crisis suits.

Baal Predators should also be considered, because their assault cannon and their flamestorm cannon are both very good against both crisis and firewarriors.

DC dreadnoghts are extremely hard to get into combat, since your opponenet will recognize the threat and take them out immediately.

The broadsides will be a problem, but a regular LR will make short work of them. And DC.

My advice: Take out both the DC dreads, replace with a Fragnought and a scout squad with camo cloaks for scoring objectives. A regular land raider is better than a Redeemer, I would take one of those.

My strategic advice: throw the DC into the broadsides... They get so many attacks, they will take them out in close combat. I would say that the PF aren't necessary.

With that list, I would say you don't stand much of a chance, but I think you have a very good chance with my advice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794178.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized Next question that come to my mind, is it better to Deep Strike with Land Raider or to start it on the board and off-flank with predator??

Reclusiarch
Plasma pistol

9xDeath Company
Hand flamer
Land Raider
Multi-melta

Scout Squad
Sniper Rifles
Camo cloaks

Furioso Dreadnought
Frag cannon
Heavy flamer
Drop pod

Baal Predator
Heavy bolters

Total:
1000]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794255.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794255.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized AC?

The land raider should stay on the board, otherwise it will be turn three before any assault, and there is always mishap. Starting on the board will give you more turns of shooting so that is good with the two lascannon shots.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6794714.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized AC if im going to play with Tau. But veersus my other mate who rather plays Wolves i would go with flames storm so i could just burn his squirrels with out any saves ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6795284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6795284.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized
I think the Death Company could do with a power weapon or two thrown in, maybe a couple of power swords and a power axe?

On the Baal I would always take ACs as it can actually harm other tanks.

Just my thoughts....
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6795320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6795320.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized DC get so many attacks on the charge that they don't care. I agree with the PP comment though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6795822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6795822.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796166.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized DC if you get enough points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796787.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796895.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized DC isn't that special against Tau.
It's designed to take out heavier units/ones that can actually do something in CC.

Regular Assault Marines still rip Tau infantry apart and if you throw in a PA/MB's you have a shot against heavier suits as well.

Also note that Scouts lose their effectiveness since Tau generally laughs at cover saves. It's not a bad unit, you just need some care with it.

I would roll with ASM in Land Raider.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796911.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796911.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized DC got FnP that have a chance to negate some ap2 shots from combined overwatch
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796987.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6796987.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized Try to squeeze in the best Overwatch-negator (after dirge caster, CSM): Brother Corbulo.

Or at least a Priest.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797160.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized SW? Is it possible with this list or maybe something like , not a single chance?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797228.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797228.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized SW list. Grey Hunters might be able to stop the DC assault due to being a strong CC unit.
But from what I've seen is that their AT is not that strong so there might be your opening.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797252.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized DC are for ripping apart the broadsides. GH will not stop DC with 4 attacks each on the charge.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797843.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized TH/SS, and wolf lord riding his Big Squirell(wolf) and wielding SS with Fist? should i just throw more DC on them?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797938.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6797945.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6800432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6800432.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized TH be actually worth paying 30 point's if he have that 3++ inv save?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6800888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6800888.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801013.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized TH to DC.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801439.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized GH squad has 10 guys, all with both bolters, pistold and CCW's.
They will most likely have 2 Special Weapons (Plasma Guns in most cases), possibly a PW/PF that can't be challenged and of course the Wolf Standard.

First they overwatch (re-rolling all ones).
Then they get counter-assault. They dish out 3 attacks each (re-rolling all ones).
You also get to hit him, of course wounding a lot. He fails on ones and twos (re-rolling all ones).

That is pretty impressive for a squad of 175 points against one of 300-600, depending on if you count the LR in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801455.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801932.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6801932.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized
lahcimus wrote:
And how to deal with Wolf Guard terminators with TH/SS, and wolf lord riding his Big Squirell(wolf) and wielding SS with Fist? should i just throw more DC on them?


As an SW player, getting that Wolf and Termies at 1k points will come at a severe disadvantage to the SW player. They are lots of points to sink into models that can typically be outmaneuvered. Also, the remaining points of your opponent he probably won't have too much to worry about. I think basically the two units you mention are worth around 300 points and I think that is being generous...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6802826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6802826.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6802906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6802906.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized
 Glorywarrior wrote:
220 for termis, 325 w/ curbulo.


So basically deathstar vs deathstar? I think he could getaway with no termies and corbulo and do fine. Although I do agree that the combo is awesome.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6802961.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6802961.page GMT 1k points versus TAU first game mechanized DC can probably kill them, or he can just keep out of their reach, but that combo I think will kill them, because you can shoot at them, but your guys tank shots better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6804300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/593417/6804300.page GMT