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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi guys!<br /> I have a small group that I play with. One friend plays Orks/Space Wolves, another Chaos <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>/Grey Knights/Tau/Imperial Knights, another plays 30k lists, and still others have Chaos/Eldar/Dark Eldar. So I get a variety of foes. <br /> I ONLY have a small <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> army. So they always know what I am playing. I dominated the Space Wolves my first go and had a string of 'close' games. But now I am getting destroyed. <br /> As I never know what I will be playing I am trying to make a rounded list that can handle most stuff but with minor tweaks for each friend.<br /> Dual Wing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> 2K pts<br /> Sammael<br /> RWCS (5) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> banner, Apoth, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(380);'>GL</span><br /> LIbby lvl2 w/ Bike, PFG, Auspex<br /> RWAS (3) flamer, melta +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(351);'>ATK</span> bike w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> RWAS (3) flamer, melta<br /> <br /> DWTS (10) 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span>, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, Sgt. w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> DWTS (5) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>, 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>Th</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Sgt. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> DWTS (5) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>, 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Sgt. w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Vindicator w/ Siedge Shield<br /> <br /> Scouts w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>, Snipers, RL<br /> <br /> The reason I made this list is that I want to use my bikes. Yes, this is all of them at the moment. What do yall think. This is geared toward my Ork friend as I play with him more often and i figured i could drop the flamers and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> for 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> vs the marine list. I know I still have to learn tactics but a list that can do well is the first step, no?<br /> <br /> I would set this up so the Vindicator is in the middle, the sniper in back on a point, and the bikes split formation. Scout the RWAS up so the DWTS can <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(628);'>DWA</span> turn 1 with no scatter.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 May 2014 12:17:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Axillaryrain]]></author>
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				<title>New to 40k, Tactical Advice</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Umm, how many points do you normally play? What are their armies like? Do you want to make a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> list or slightly tailored?<br /> Also what models/budget do you have?<br /> <br /> As for your list, it looks normal for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>. I'm guessing you switch flamers for meltas against anyone else but orks?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 May 2014 14:42:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New to 40k, Tactical Advice</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I listed their armies at the top. What list they use is different most times but my the Ork friend takes trucks, lootas, and orks that are good at assualt with power klaws. The chaos <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> are usually Nurggle based. <br /> But this is about the extent of my army for now with about 20 Tactical guys + a few <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span>. and 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Knights & a Mortis Con. Dread.<br /> I want to play my bikes. I'm just not sure if i should use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> or Tact. to fill it in.<br /> We generally play 1850-2000 points.<br /> <br /> My Last list were:<br /> Belial<br /> 4x DWTS (5), <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Knights (5) <br /> 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span>. 2x Rockets, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> Mortis Con. Dread.<br /> Scouts (5) Snipers<br /> <br /> But i have been running bad luck with that list of late. I have started saving for more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> stuff. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 May 2014 21:09:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Axillaryrain]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I find if your going all bikes, go all bikes.<br /> <br /> For your list above I say give it a go, just remember 2 things<br /> <br /> 1) dice will favor you and screw you, don't judge a list due to great or crappy rolling.<br /> <br /> 2) you need different weapons for different jobs, for any xenos flamers are an OK choice, but against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> heavy or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> lists plasma and metlas are going to be more useful.<br /> <br /> Only exception would running 60 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> bikes and a command squad with banner of devastation, then you should be able to throw enough dice to take out anything with a T value of less then 8 or Av11+.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 May 2014 21:24:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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