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1 lord
22 chaos marines
1 helbrute

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Chaos codex

Chaos supplement "crimson slaughter"- gives you access to powerful weapons and warlord traits

Hqs-abbadon-typhus-basic chaos lords-basic chaos sorcerers.

Elites-chosen- just because of the special weapons they can take, though they are worse then PM who have better T and can be troops-chaos terminators, best ten in min squads with combi meltas for anti tank deep striking.

Troops-cultists for swarms-basic marines for all purpose-PM for all purpose cost more then basic marines, but are 100% better at it all, can only be taken as troops if a chaos lord has the same mark-noise marines, long ranged anti infantry butchers, only troops if a chaos lord has same mark.

Fast-heldrakes good at everything other then killing AV14/2+ armour spam

Heavy-oblits good at everything best with MoN or MoT-forgefiends are good at shooting but can die fast and suck at CC-maulerfiend lacks shooting but is fast and can bog down units, is also very cheap-chaos land raider, only assault transport plus it has TL lascannons

For your current model count I can build you a list if you wish, just PM me.

Also for any more info just ask.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/595020/6828219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/595020/6828219.page GMT CSM have these strengths:

Initiative 5
Sonic weapons
access to Feel No Pain on every squad

I'd grab some sorcerers, noise marines, rhinos, heldrakes, heavy support to start out. I'd suggest havocs, stock forgefiends, or obliterators for heavy support.

Also consider daemon allies, especially with Unbound lists coming out soon, you can take all sorts of crazy stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/595020/6828418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/595020/6828418.page GMT