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				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140507/04102327144/us-patent-office-grants-photography-against-white-background-patent-to-amazon.shtml?_ga=1.178291236.1205361971.1397085400" target="_new" rel="nofollow">US Patent Office Grants 'Photography Against A White Background' Patent To Amazon</a><br /> <br /> So remember to spice it up a bit in the background, or you are breaking IP law, and hate America™!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thats disturbing...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The stupidity... oh, feth it. ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Beware Mini Photographers, Amazon is coming for you!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Absurd. Madness. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really need to get on filing that patent for filing patents before someone else gets on that. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2014 16:55:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/282a2be87dd614f94e72ab3af22adbd7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6871878.page"><b>Chongara wrote:</b></a><br/>I really need to get on filing that patent for filing patents before someone else gets on that. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Better get a move on.  I'm already on my way to the Patent Office with this right now!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What happens if you use photoshop to make your background off-white?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is this a joke?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The patent office is quickly moving up my list of most slowed government bodies. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2014 19:47:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ecbf107838d6ae071464fcc95b65587b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6872643.page"><b>Kilkrazy wrote:</b></a><br/>Is this a joke?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It both is and isn't.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2014 19:56:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5564ea8fc1f9acd97ea2215d54c26a1f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6872433.page"><b>Necros wrote:</b></a><br/>What happens if you use photoshop to make your background off-white?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Subtle, off-white?  <br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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				<description><![CDATA[ White's a bad background to use anyway (even modern ccds have compensation issues with it).<br /> <br /> I tend to go with grads.  The blue-to white is overused - but grey grads work with most colours.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I wonder how Amazon are going to enforce this.<br /> <br /> "C&D, the process belongs to us."<br /> <br /> "We have been photographing against a white background a priori."<br /> <br /> There is no patent because it will be ignored, any attempt by the US Patent Office to enforce this will only make them a laughing stock, and diminish the power of US Patent law.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 12:02:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Time to recolor the old light box. I was thinking taupe...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 14:29:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeaah, this is one patent that is not going to stand up in court.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 15:03:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Guys don't worry. The patent is for a very specific, practically impossible to replicate on accident method.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>a background comprising a white cyclorama; a front light source positioned in a longitudinal axis intersecting the background, the longitudinal axis further being substantially perpendicular to a surface of the white cyclorama; an image capture position located between the background and the front light source in the longitudinal axis, the image capture position comprising at least one image capture device equipped with an eighty-five millimeter lens, the at least one image capture device further configured with an ISO setting of about three hundred twenty and an f-stop value of about 5.6...</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 15:16:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What does an 85mm lens mean anyway?<br /> <br /> I've been using an 85mm lens for years on my 35mm Nikon. It's great for informal portraits and double portraits.<br /> <br /> However the "effective" focal length depends on the sensor dimensions which are different depending on what type of camera you use.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 15:32:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/81bf4fa6bee9ecfd18fd7a1cfcf97618.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6876050.page"><b>Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:</b></a><br/>Guys don't worry. The patent is for a very specific, practically impossible to replicate on accident method.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>a background comprising a white cyclorama; a front light source positioned in a longitudinal axis intersecting the background, the longitudinal axis further being substantially perpendicular to a surface of the white cyclorama; an image capture position located between the background and the front light source in the longitudinal axis, the image capture position comprising at least one image capture device equipped with an eighty-five millimeter lens, the at least one image capture device further configured with an ISO setting of about three hundred twenty and an f-stop value of about 5.6...</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I... feel dumb... I read this and I go completely "Uuhh?!"]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 15:57:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/81bf4fa6bee9ecfd18fd7a1cfcf97618.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6876050.page"><b>Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:</b></a><br/>Guys don't worry. The patent is for a very specific, practically impossible to replicate on accident method.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>a background comprising a white cyclorama; a front light source positioned in a longitudinal axis intersecting the background, the longitudinal axis further being substantially perpendicular to a surface of the white cyclorama; an image capture position located between the background and the front light source in the longitudinal axis, the image capture position comprising at least one image capture device equipped with an eighty-five millimeter lens, the at least one image capture device further configured with an ISO setting of about three hundred twenty and an f-stop value of about 5.6...</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How will they be able to tell if someone steals their system?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2014 16:00:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/16d35b165b7793595c4543fcba97cbd1.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6876237.page"><b>Grey Templar wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/81bf4fa6bee9ecfd18fd7a1cfcf97618.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6876050.page"><b>Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:</b></a><br/>Guys don't worry. The patent is for a very specific, practically impossible to replicate on accident method.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>a background comprising a white cyclorama; a front light source positioned in a longitudinal axis intersecting the background, the longitudinal axis further being substantially perpendicular to a surface of the white cyclorama; an image capture position located between the background and the front light source in the longitudinal axis, the image capture position comprising at least one image capture device equipped with an eighty-five millimeter lens, the at least one image capture device further configured with an ISO setting of about three hundred twenty and an f-stop value of about 5.6...</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How will they be able to tell if someone steals their system?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I believe this is only an attempt to prevent people from using Amazon's photos in their own listings.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Then hit them for stealing your photos. <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/16d35b165b7793595c4543fcba97cbd1.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6876297.page"><b>Grey Templar wrote:</b></a><br/>Then hit them for stealing your photos. <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Wheres the fun in that.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6872412.page"><b>squidhills wrote:</b></a><br/>Better get a move on.  I'm already on my way to the Patent Office with this right now!</div></blockquote><br /> I already lodged a patent on going to the Patent Office with spurious patent applications, so I must ask you to cease and desist.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How is the white background defined? i just have to be a little off with my white <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9b9b9b787945a9c6c5f243b6dccaabc8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6878774.page"><b>insaniak wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6872412.page"><b>squidhills wrote:</b></a><br/>Better get a move on.  I'm already on my way to the Patent Office with this right now!</div></blockquote><br /> I already lodged a patent on going to the Patent Office with spurious patent applications, so I must ask you to cease and desist.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Well, <b>I</b> patented the word "the". I'll see you in court! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5ca86bcfb4f971bd364c2d1b2c508604.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6878796.page"><b>Jehan-reznor wrote:</b></a><br/>How is the white background defined? i just have to be a little off with my white <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm gonna get a Patent on taking photographs in a 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 1% Argon atmosphere. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So now that you see how they do it, you do it in a very different way and just say it's your own personally constructed method and have documentation to back up how it differs from Amazon's revolutionary method.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 May 2014 16:58:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SagesStone]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ See this is why we can't have nice things...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 May 2014 17:00:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Asherian Command]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm suspicious of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> IP infringing on Amazon's white background method. Just look at the smiliarity in the white!<br /> <br /> where do I file the complain?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 May 2014 17:25:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I discussed this with a patent lawyer I know. He said it was circulated as "Joke patent of the week" in European patent law circles, however it seems to be genuine though he said it would never have been granted in Europe.<br /> <br /> He agreed with my points about the technical details.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 May 2014 19:55:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kilkrazy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ OMG NO!?!<br /> Not another scandal!?!?!<br /> Wait....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 May 2014 19:58:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll have to switch to a porn collage that I made using paste and poster board for my miniature back ground, I guess.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 May 2014 20:07:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/7c106aeaee40730db7c1e274538821f7.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/597155/6880912.page"><b>kronk wrote:</b></a><br/>I'll have to switch to a porn collage that I made using paste and poster board for my miniature back ground, I guess.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Prove it!  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 May 2014 00:45:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey now. Some good could come of this.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> uses white backgrounds <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 May 2014 01:17:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The best part of this ridiculousness is the fact that the patent is for a very specific setup that they happen to use, which gives them an end result that has no shadows against a white background. <br /> <br /> Not a hard result to duplicate with any other specific setup, but one that makes it impossible to prove that someone copied the setup, as no shadow means no way of determining the placement of lighting.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah this is silly and unenforceable.<br /> Reminds me of a story my Dad told me the other day, he does a lot of design work for a locksmith, and one of the locksmith's tools was patented here about 30 years ago.<br /> This locksmith took a trip to America to at some point to demonstrate his tool, the immediate reaction from a particular audience member was "That's infringing my patent, I'm going to sue you."<br /> This audience member's patent had being filed in America 10 years previously.<br /> <br /> Nothing came of it, because despite this audience member's willingness to sue, he would have lost anyway!  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 May 2014 11:24:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have to say I was dumbfounded when I read the headline on another news site. Then I clicked the link and read through the description and looked at the diagram. It seems overly complicated, but more power to Amazon if they want to do it that way. I'll be out back on the veranda with a pair of white poster boards and the sun. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 31 May 2014 03:05:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The setup is a variation on the standard three point lighting setup which has been used in film, TV and product photography since about forever.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 31 May 2014 07:22:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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