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I have always played vanilla marines, fluff based and shall not suffer the psyker to live, it does seem now though that I am missing out on a huge part of the game and am going to get tanked without something to defend me at a minimum from enemies constant summoning.

I am not a fan of any of the libby models and play as an IF successor, what should I add to get a decent bang in the new phase?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6890759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6890759.page GMT Imperial Fists are fine with them.
Now technically BT is a IF sub chapter.....so ..play that how you want it =D

What do you mean not a fan of the models??
you can always custom build your own Libby.
Libby with Bio is an amazing beat stick.
Libby with divination is a good force multiplier.
Can add DA libby with PFG and Divination for a nice buff
Ally in GK or inqusitor. for a fluffy sense see above for reasons.
Ally in Salamander and a tac squad in a pod roll on Pyro. again very fluffy
Space wolves and rune priest in pod. good for DtW.
Take some Tyranids and send in a wave of pysic bugs first.

that is a good starting list. if you give us more info we can help more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6890857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6890857.page GMT lvl 2 psuker upgrade. You get a mastery lvl 2 psyker that generates 3 warp charges and gets to reroll failed psychic tests at a pretty bargain price.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6891164.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6891164.page GMT
Denying the Witch is significantly more difficult than casting powers. For instance it takes 4WC to give you a ~50% chances of Denying a 1WC Power. Against a 2WC power it takes 10WC of deny Dice for the same odds. Against a WC3 Power it takes 16WC if Deny dice for that same ~50%. Adding a Psycher for Psychic defense is extremely inefficient, the best most armies can hope for is throwing all of their dice against a single power they want stopped and hope for the best. Two additional WC from a Psycher aren't going to affect the outcome all that by much.

Having a single Psycher will be more of a liability against some of the higher Warp Charge lists as they can through fistfuls of dice against your one or two successes. You may be better served by spending your points on something that adds offense to your list.

Now against a list with only one Psycher or none, having one of your own can be very beneficial, but against the top tier Psychic armies you are better off just forgoing the Psycher and devoting those resources into making your overall list better.


I guess I'm saying, don't feel the need to add a Osycher to your army, thoug if you do Tigerius is by far the best the Imperium of Man has to offer thanks to his ~75% chance of getting any power he wants.


The best Psychic defense most armies will have is going to be killing the Psychers as quickly as possible and praying that their dice are fickle and Perils chips away at their Psychers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6891208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/598266/6891208.page GMT