<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! Here's my list:
1 chapter master w/ artificer armour and the teeth of terra(relic)=185
2x10 marines w/lascannon=320
2x1 predator w/heavy bolter sponsons=180
5 assault terminators=200
5 devastators w/4 heavy bolters and melta bombs=115
I have to use 1000 points
Please get back to me ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6910889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6910889.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911054.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911054.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911201.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911208.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! lol Then take TFCs and Tac Marines in rhinos and some dev centurions with lascannons and missile launchers for their gorka morka giant robot things. The missile launchers can all fire frag too so that's nice. Finally, dakka jets are easy kills for stormtalons so I'd bring 2 of those. That's about it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911574.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
Missile Devastators are excellent, able to use frag on large groups and krak on vehicles/tougher targets. They may be tempting and cheap, but you don't want melta bombs on your Devastators. Devastators want to sit far away and shoot as much as they can, so they'll never get a chance to use that bomb.

Don't take lascannons on Tactical Marines, which can either fire Snap Shots or force the whole unit to stand still (this is bad). Take flamers and/or meltas, depending on what you want them to be doing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6911602.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
Chapter Master (whatever you want)
3x Tac Squad (Heavy bolter and plasma gun)
Dreadnought (Twin autocannons)
2x Dev Squads (4x Heavy Bolters)

Just a thought...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912168.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! kff)*He might take both. I need something that can bust 14 armour from far away other than the one use orbital bombardment.(that's what the lc's were for, chapter master would go with the terminators as a counter-charge, the tac marines were there to light them up when they got within 24 inches and the devs were my fire support)
Chapter Master (whatever you want) 3x Tac Squad (Heavy bolter and plasma gun) Dreadnought (Twin autocannons) 2x Dev Squads (4x Heavy Bolters) 

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912426.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
Pedro
Tactical Squad (10) - rhino, flamer
Tactical Squad (10) - heavy bolter

Stormtalon - skyhammers

TFC
Centurion Devastator Squad (3) - lascannons x3, missile x1

1000 points

That lets you sit pedro and the heavy bolter squad in cover ahead of the Cents (he can still fire his orbital bombardment). The Centurions rip open Gorkanaut and transports, the TFC and Tac Squads kill what's inside. The Stormtalon handles a Dakka Jet, and everything can hurt swarms of infantry. Everything also has preferred enemy against orks... can't beat that.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912449.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912553.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
I'm not entirely familiar with the Storm Talon, but I believe it has assault cannons. Those can be surprisingly effective against AV14, with Rending. Bonus points if the big Ork machine in question only has blast weapons (I've seen it with some sort of big gatling gun thing, but it's possible that the thing can be taken with blast-only), making the flier immune to it.

Seriously, though, don't take lascannons on Tactical Marines. They're expensive and they slow them way down. If you really have to have lascannons, go with Devastators and Predators.

Your Assault Terminators could do a fair amount of damage to the thing as well, especially if given a chainfist. We don't know the thing's melee capability, but it's possible that they could deepstrike behind it in relative safety to assault it the next turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912880.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912880.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
xTHExCLINCHERx wrote:
A list like this was what I was talking about:

Pedro
Tactical Squad (10) - rhino, flamer
Tactical Squad (10) - heavy bolter

Stormtalon - skyhammers

TFC
Centurion Devastator Squad (3) - lascannons x3, missile x1

1000 points

That lets you sit pedro and the heavy bolter squad in cover ahead of the Cents (he can still fire his orbital bombardment). The Centurions rip open Gorkanaut and transports, the TFC and Tac Squads kill what's inside. The Stormtalon handles a Dakka Jet, and everything can hurt swarms of infantry. Everything also has preferred enemy against orks... can't beat that.



I would avoid centurions at 1000 points game if it where me! you could take another 2 more TFCs and still have points left over!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912950.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
 Frozen Ocean wrote:
assault cannons [...] can be surprisingly effective against AV14, with Rending.


As in, it will be a surprise when they are effective vs AV14. As a player who depends on assault cannons with +1S (Grey Knights, psycannons) please take drop podded combi-melta Sternguard (or at least melta/grav bikers) to deal with AV >12]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912976.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912976.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! OP was specifically wanting to use lascannons, which (unless this has changed) just aren't as good as assault cannons vs AV14.

I totally agree, though. Deepstriking melta (Chaos Terminators!) and melta-bikers are excellent. However, it is hard to predict anything at this time - perhaps the 'anaut will be completely terrible (probably not).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912998.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6912998.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
Assault cannon
4 shots
3+ to hit
2.666... shots hit
6 to rend
0.444... shots rend
.296... shots glance/pen

Lascannon
1 shot
3+ to hit
.666... hit
.222... glance/pen


Although that doesn't include things like Lascannon having 2x the range, or the possibility to outright explode (as rare as it might be).
Still vastly inferior to melta, though. Reserve taking potshots with the assault cannon for when all of his infantry is dead.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913104.page GMT I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! CSM player, I don't much concern myself with assault cannons, but it's good to know what they're capable of. It's less about hunting AV14/whatever with assault cannons and more about knowing what an assault cannon is capable of if it happens to be in range. Still, that TLAC on the Talon is no joke.

Can Land Speeders take melta? I'm not at home, so I don't have access to any of my books. My knowledge on post-6E books is rather limited, especially when it comes to things I don't see often (Land Speeders, Storm Talons). If so, a deepstriking Land Speeder with melta or multi-melta would be seriously nasty.

EDIT: OP, is there anything else significant about your brother's army?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913281.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! tfc. Oh yeah and...what's an op?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913589.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913589.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
 The Emperor's Child wrote:
My brother was also planning on taking flash gits because they get much better in the new codex. I'm liking the list with pedro in it but I would not want to take centurions. Maybe I could replace it with a stormtalon or a tfc. Oh yeah and...what's an op?


What about this? (Oh, and side note... "technically" you can still take Pedro and use the Sentinels of Terra supplement to get "Close Range Bolter Drill" which is just gonna be amazing for you.

Pedro
Tactical Squad (10) - rhino, combi-flamer, flamer
Tactical Squad (10) - heavy bolter
Scout Squad (5) - bolters, land speeder storm w/heavy flamer

Stormtalon - skyhammers

Devastator Squad (5) - lascannon x4
TFC

1000 points

I'd hate to throw away a unit of sternguard (which you would be doing because they'll never survive being that close to the tide) but if you wanna take out the Mork/Gork-anaut another way, try this:


Pedro
Tactical Squad (10) - rhino, combi-flamer, flamer
Scout Squad (9) - bolters, storm bolter

Sternguard (5) - pod, combi-melta x4

Stormtalon - skyhammers

TFC
TFC

1000 points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913624.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913624.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex!
 The Emperor's Child wrote:
what's an op?


Dakka has a feature which clarifies acronyms and the like. When a word is yellow, hover your cursor over it to get an explanation. "OP" in this case stands for "original poster". In this thread, that is you.

EDIT: Both of them are 13/13/12 with 5 HP, no AV14 (White Dwarf). You'll have a much easier time taking it out, then.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6913967.page GMT Re:I Need Help!!! Space Marines List To Combat The New Ork Codex! av 13!!! That's amazing! I have a couple of lists based on what people have said and my original list. I will post them soon so that you guys can vote for the one you like most.


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I was thinking about having the sterngaurd in a drop pod w/ a deathwind and a locator beacon, and a tfc in a drop pod w/ a deathwind. I would have the sterngaurd vets come in first turn, have the tfc pod drop in next turn(hopefully) to provide cover fire.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6915226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/599388/6915226.page GMT