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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok ive revisted my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> ravenwing list. I only play vs chaos at the mo non competitively. Vs a heldrake, daemon prince and oblits plague marines all nurgle. Other than heli theres not current vehicles in my opponents list. Would just like opinions. Im sure he will add vehicles to his list and i will then use more meltas.<br /> <br /> Ravenwing List<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> 1x Sammual     <br /> 1x Librarian      -  Mastery <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 <br />                             Bike <br />                             Power Generator Field <br />                             Combi-Melta             <br /> <br /> 1x 5 Man Ravenwing Command Squad <br />                               1x Apothecary <br />                               1x Standard of Devastation <br /> 1x 5 Man Ravenwing Command Squad <br />                               1x Apothecary        <br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 6x Bikes  (1x Vet Serg )<br /> 6x Bikes  (1x Vet Serg )<br /> 6x Bikes  (1x Vet Serg )<br /> <br />  Elite<br /> 1x Mortis Dreadnought 2 Twin Lascannons <br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> 5x Black Knights (sergeant with Power Maul )<br /> 5x Black Knights (sergeant with Power Maul )<br /> <br /> 1997]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:59:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Carl4t7]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Never tried using 2 command squads, seems interesting, Only personal opinion for it is maybe drop the 2nd command squad and get attack bikes for your troops slots, T5 2W objective secured bikes are pretty awesome. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 21:20:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I thought about it, even thought of dropping the lib for more bikes. But i think attack bikes are easy pickings. Although they take up opponents firepower. Hmmmill look into it]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 21:23:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Carl4t7]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> is better than the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Are you paying for the upgrades on the bike squads for the SGT or are you just listing that they have a sgt, because without buying upgrades, and with the dakka banner, whats the point of the SGT?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 21:53:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:The Revised 2000 Point Ravenwing List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ that's all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> you have in a 2000pt list?<br /> Need to add some meltas on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> sqds.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 22:14:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bullyboy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bullyboy i dont think you read my post correctly..<br /> <br /> And why is the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> better than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>?<br /> <br /> I upgraded the vet sergs as i had 30 spare and it increases <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 22:16:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Carl4t7]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would drop the 2nd command squad and add attack bikes and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> to your squads.  Late game <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> and attack bikes with the Objective Secured <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(136);'>USR</span> seems pretty tasty to me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 02:31:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ phoenix darkus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> against &lt;AV 13 is almost twice as many glaces/pens per round compared to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> I believe, Also more can kinda-sorta deal with fliers better too.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> And it's more generally applicable (kills more infantry than two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>)<br /> <br /> But it's preference too, if you like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, stick with it <br /> <br /> Attack bikes with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> could be nice...<br /> <br /> You could also include some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> typhoon pattern Landspeeders for Objective secured on top of everything else, would help punch through armor too. &gt;]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 03:28:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bryceloop]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/601473/6954197.page"><b>bryceloop wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> against &lt;AV 13 is almost twice as many glaces/pens per round compared to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> I believe, Also more can kinda-sorta deal with fliers better too.<br /> <br /> <br /> And it's more generally applicable (kills more infantry than two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>)</div></blockquote><br /> If you are needing your dread to shooot infantry in a list with a dakka banner then you are doing something wrong. <br /> <br /> As for the lascannons: <br /> <br /> They are outright better vs AV12+ <br /> Vs AV11 the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> will deal 0.3 more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span> damage per turn, Same number of penetrating hits.<br /> Vs AV10 the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> will deal 0.6 more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span> damage per turn. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> does 0.3 more pen hits. <br /> <br /> In both of these however the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> has no chance now to cause an explodes result. <br /> Vs infantry the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> is better vs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(652);'>TEQ</span>, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>ac</span> will win out vs anything with a 4+ save or worse. <br /> <br /> I prefer the lascannons, as they also fill out an anti armour role vs ground targets too. If you are worried about anti air, then a fireraptor might be a good call. <br /> <br /> <br /> To improve the list I would:<br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Remove the Vet Sergeants<br /> Take the combi weapon off the librarian<br /> Remove the power mauls </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This will give you 64 points to work with.<br /> I would give each of your bike squads 2 meltaguns each, this will fill the very big anti-tank deficit you currently have. <br /> With the remaining points, give the librarian melta bombs or an Auspex depending on the amount of cover or armour. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Jun 2014 12:32:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Big Blind Bill]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The Revised 2000 Point Ravenwing List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you choose a banner with one RWCS I believe you have to choose one for the other.  I may be wrong though.<br /> <br /> Either way, I would cut the melta on the lib and the vet on the bike squads and the apoths on the bike squads (atleast one because you will probably have the libby riding with it for command purposes)<br /> <br /> Then use those points to make the bike squads either Melta/Flamer squads depending on what you plan on killing (crowds or vehicles).<br /> <br /> Other than that the list looks sound.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Jun 2014 17:03:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RJCarrot]]></author>
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