<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death?
In fact, for those of you who don't agree with me.. Let me sweeten the deal!

A lascannon shot wouldn't kill an entire swarm of Nurglings, but a flamer certainly could. And yet a flamer is only relegated to double wounds. So how about in exchange for immunity to ID from single high strength shots, have blasts and templates cause instant death to swarms instead! I am aware this is a significant change and would impact the value of swarms in a major way, and is more likely than not a nerf. I'm just saying that if we lowered the points cost of swarms even further, it would reflect the units more realistically.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6966328.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6966328.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? 40k fix list.

Swarms are ID by blasts and templates regardless of Strength, but immune to ID fro many other source.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6966344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6966344.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death?
Of course, they should stack, so a template that doubles out a swarm should deal four wounds for every failed save.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967050.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967356.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967356.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death?
Just kidding.

What do you mean?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967365.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967545.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? Lets look at this example: a single round of a serpent shooting SHOULD NOT easily kill 40 scarabs (10 scarab bases) aka 150pts. Yet with 6 st6 and d6+1 st7, many of these twinlinked shots, it most certainly has a decent chance. How can a maximum of 13 shots kill 40 scarabs???
I think that rather than increase templates and blasts to ID, what you should do is reduce attacks by 1 per wound lost to a minimum of 1 per base. It is far more fluffy and makes swarms far more playable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6967564.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? ID blasts/templates aren't that bad considering a small blast and most templates can't cover more than a couple bases, so you'd still in a way be out swarming them. The only exception there would be the large blasts, which would just annihilate the entire unit immediately... Maybe that is too much, but it does sound more realistic. Perhaps blasts/templates could do triple wounds instead of instant death. That'd at least save the ones that were covered somehow...


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I've got it! When a swarm gets struck by blasts/templates, let's have them take a hit for every wound of the bases caught! They'll still most likely die, but not guaranteed like before, which is probably as realistic as it could be!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6969701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6969701.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6971273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6971273.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death? ID works as normal, but only on blasts/templates.

edit: clarifying, I mean, double-toughness ID, but this is ignored unless it's a blast/template. For instance, a battlecannon will splat swarms, but a flamer or lascannon wouldn't.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6971323.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6971323.page GMT Should Swarms be vulnerable to Instant Death?
 spiralingcadaver wrote:
I'd vote for ID works as normal, but only on blasts/templates.

edit: clarifying, I mean, double-toughness ID, but this is ignored unless it's a blast/template. For instance, a battlecannon will splat swarms, but a flamer or lascannon wouldn't.


That sounds reasonable.

So here's how my house rule currently reads:

"High Strength wounds without causing Instant Death, and blasts/templates force a hit for every wound on the affected bases. If the blast/template strength is double the swarm's toughness, it causes Instant Death instead."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6971806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602115/6971806.page GMT