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				<description><![CDATA[ Right now I got this:<br /> <br /> 1	Spiritseer	70<br /> 3	Min Fragon Squad	330<br /> 6	Min <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Squad	390<br /> 9	Wave Serpent Shu Scatter + Holo	1305<br /> 3	Wraith Knight	720<br /> 6	Shining Spears with Exarch Star Lance hit and run	185<br /> <br /> Total: 3000<br /> <br /> <br /> Anyone got something better ?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Free up 45pts for a bikeseer to go with shining spears.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Pretty easy way to do that really... drop holos for ghost walk matrix on the serpents <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">.  It probably would be worth dropping a couple of shuricannons for a spear and spirit stones of awesomes for the farseer.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:56:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 120 farseer, bike, spear<br /> 105 autarch, fusion, lance, bike<br /> <br /> 220 2x 5 dragons<br /> 360 6x 5 avengers<br /> <br /> 270 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> holo <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(219);'>SL</span><br /> 870 6x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> holo <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(219);'>SL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span><br /> <br /> 720 3x knights<br /> <br /> 185 6x spears, ex, lance, hit+run<br /> <br /> 96 6 hawks<br /> <br /> 2946<br /> <br /> Some wiggle room left.<br /> 9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> is alot, can easily go to 8.<br /> 3 knights AND 3 dragons may be overkill on anti-armor given the serp spam. So dropped a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(464);'>FD</span> unit and their serp.<br /> <br /> Can give the spears 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>ic</span>'s to increase it's damage output ( assuming it's intercepting/counter-charging) although farseer not likely to actually cast much at 3k, but 3+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> dice to throw on an enemy cast you dislike is nice.<br /> <br /> Added hawks because they are awesome, and provide a large blast and can land anywhere to take an objective or just annoy something. More blasts would be nice in case you play horde armies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:36:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dayve110]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Having played the lances ... they're not on par with the other options, I'd rather drop them tbh.<br /> <br /> Hawks I have an issue with, we're already dealing 6S10AP1 Distort and three Fragons (no I'm not dropping that).<br /> <br /> I played a MantleSeer last game, it looked "playable", however I think Spears, Autarch and Jetseer would just get murdered in a competitive game, might as well drop those fkkk.s<br /> <br /> I'm somewhat seduced by ghost walk matrixes, but that's like 9 of em, and droping holofields ? here's the math bro, you don't wanna do that:<br /> <textarea name="code" class="java" cols="60" rows="10">
				No cover		Any cover	Ruin	Ruin Conqueror		Ignores cover
Without			100%			133%		200%	300%				100%
With			116%			200%		300%	600%				100%
With on without	+16%			+50%		+50%	+100%				0%
</textarea><br /> <br /> So uhm... reallocating the points from the useless lances.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 1	Spiritseer	70 <br /> 3	Min Fragon Squad	330 <br /> 6	Min DA Squad	390 <br /> 9	Wave Serpent Shu Scatter + Holo	1305 <br /> 3	Wraith Knight	720 <br /> <br /> <br /> Remaining:185<br /> <br /> IMO there is zero competitive HQ choice in that price range, a Mantle whatever would just end up saturated or even ID'd.<br /> Elite, we're full.<br /> Troops, we're full.<br /> Heavy Support, we're full.<br /> <br /> Guess you can add Spiders. or Ghostwalk Matrixes, but since there are 9 WS there is not going to be enough room for all of them in terrain, I would guess only the three Fragon transports *might* be worth it.<br /> <br /> Transforming Fragons into D-scythes maybe ? how competitive are these ?<br /> <br /> <br /> Maybe this:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 1	Spiritseer	70 <br /> 3	Min Fragon Squad	330 <br /> 6	Min DA Squad	390 <br /> 9	Wave Serpent Shu Scatter + Holo	1305 <br /> 3	Wraith Knight	720 <br /> 3	Ghostwalk Matrixes for the Fragon WS	30<br /> <br /> 155 points remaining<br /> <br /> <br /> I'd like something that makes Necrons weep.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:04:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ morgoth]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Did you try the spears as an assault unit or hold back as an interceptor?<br /> <br /> As for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> you could take an autarch with fusion for 80, random high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> melta in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> serpent and some reserve manipulation if you need to reserve something (knights v venom spam and your going 2nd for example)<br /> <br /> D-scythes would do well on any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>OT</span> vehicles or hordes, pack them tights with careful tank-shocks perhaps.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jun 2014 11:51:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dayve110]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b2ec0c50524c3235d03d3bb9c6d4bf4.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/602576/6977703.page"><b>dayve110 wrote:</b></a><br/>Did you try the spears as an assault unit or hold back as an interceptor?<br /> <br /> As for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> you could take an autarch with fusion for 80, random high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> melta in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> serpent and some reserve manipulation if you need to reserve something (knights v venom spam and your going 2nd for example)<br /> <br /> D-scythes would do well on any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>OT</span> vehicles or hordes, pack them tights with careful tank-shocks perhaps.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 1. I tried as an Assault unit, I don't see the point of an interceptor with my playstyle, I may be missing a good use case to reconsider.<br /> <br /> 2. I'd rather have two DTW dice than one fusion gun and risk losing my Warlord traits. 2+ reserve is nice, Knights will have to suck it up, but I'm not too afraid of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> at the moment. Necrons are on my mind though.<br /> <br /> 3. Packing with Tank Shocks is incredibly situational.  I'd rather not be that close to the enemy with too many Tanks.  What do you usually hunt with D-Scythes ?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:16:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ morgoth]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If your good at playing keep-away you may not need an interceptor, or a knight may suffice depending on the target. A charge at enemy lines would see the spears gunned down or counter charged easily at this point level.<br /> There are units however that will be annoying, either through speed, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>, pod, outflank, etc, that can potentially eat up a lot of knight/serp fire that would be better utilised elsewhere.<br /> Since you only have fast slots available you are limited on choice however. Any unit, spiders, spears, vypers or hawks will be of limited use or die easily, since s4 has nothing else to do against you besides kill your fast slot.<br /> If you want the spears keep them out of sight if possible and use them to take out things that get annoyingly close. <br /> <br /> If your main concern is necrons the scythes can eat up their infantry quite well and weather a lot of return fire. If playing ghost arks the templates would also do a number on its contents since it <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>OT</span>. One of the main selling points for scythes is objectives, very hard to shoot off and nobody wants to charge that wall of death over watch.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:56:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dayve110]]></author>
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