http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Black Templar Army List
Captain - 175
- Artificer Armour
- Space Marine Bike
- Lighting Claw
- Thunder Hammer
Tactical Squad - 140
- 10 Space Marines
Tactical Squad - 140
- 10 Space Marines
Tactical Squad - 140
- 10 Space Marines
Scout Squad - 110
- 10 Scouts
Crusader Squad - 240
- 10 Initiates
- 10 Neophytes
Bike Squad - 253
- 8 Bikes
- 2 Meltaguns
- Combi-melta
- Attack Bike
- Mulit-melta

Astra Militarum Allies
Company Command Squad - 80
- Boltgun
- Krak Grenades
- Carapace Armour
Veterans - 86
- Boltgun
- Krak Grenades
- Carapace Armour
Veterans - 86
- Boltgun
- Krak Grenades
- Carapace Armour
Ratlings - 50
- 5 Ratlings

Total Points 1500

The thunder claw gives my captain the same number of thunder hammer attacks as a company master with thunder hammer and shield eternal, obviously he doesn't have the same survivability, but he is significantly cheaper, my chapter tactics are the Black Templars because i like their fluff and their ability to take crusader squads, the goal I was going for was going for was a chapter strength space marine army at 1500 points as their is 100 bodys not including my Captain, the Astra Militarum allows me to field cheap Space Marine Wannabes (as the inquisition wouldn't care if the black templars had a few thousand elite yet still guardsmen boosting their ranks) and ratlings are the best snipers the Imperium have outside of the vindicare assassins, any advice would be greatly appreciated to make my list more competitive



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7019239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7019239.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7021660.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7021660.page GMT CCS/vets???

I don't think bolter-fest is gonna cut it. Bodies are great but there are plenty of things that you have nothing to punch through.

If you wanna load up on bodies you can keep the BT CT and load up on Crusader squads. That way you can add some specials and heavies in your squads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7022149.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7022149.page GMT av 10 is dead any way and anyone except the ratlings have krak grenades for av 12 and under]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7034337.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7034337.page GMT IMO I find your lack of AP2 and anti tank disturbing... foot sloging marines aren't going to last very long... maybe drop one squad and toss in some plasma or meltas or at least a transport or to...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7034539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/604984/7034539.page GMT