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HQ:
Chapter Master (Warlord)
Artificer Armor, Gorgon's Chain, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[245]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod w/ Locator
[205]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(5) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[125]

(5+1) Bike Squad
2x Grav Guns, Combi-Grav
Attack Bike w/ Multimelta
[200]

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Heavy:
Thunderfire Cannon
Drop Pod
[135]

[1550]

Iron Hands Allied Detachment

HQ:
Chapter Master
Artificer Armor, Shield Eternal, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[250]

Troops:
(5+1) Bike Squad
2x Grav Guns, Combi-Grav
Attack Bike w/ Multimelta
[200]

[450]

[2000]

It occurred to me I needed an alternative list to my Carcharodons lists that used their FW Chapter Tactics, so I threw this together. I have two tank Chapter Masters escorting the Bike Squads, which can hunt down stuff Grav is good at or pop heavy armor with the MM. TFC takes up a good position and tossing blasts (Pod comes down empty later). 35 Tacticals can be 4-6 Obj. Secured units, along with their Obj. Secured Drop Pods. The Stormtalons clear the skies. Pretty straight-forward list that looks to just overwhelm with 3+ T4 bodies and hunker down on objectives.

Thoughts? Does it look competitive?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7024199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7024199.page GMT
Be careful not to isolate your CM squads. While they're tough they can't take on heavy-hitters all by themselves and their squads don't have the CC tools to tear it up. Make sure they support each other.

Cheers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7025541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7025541.page GMT
I am already giving them CCWs, too, btw. Would it be worth dropping to Captains and adding some more ICs to the squads?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7027354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7027354.page GMT CAD

HQ:
Chapter Master (Warlord)
Artificer Armor, Gorgon's Chain, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[245]

Elites:
Ironclad Dreadnought
Drop Pod
[170]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(5+1) Bike Squad
2x Grav Guns, CCWs, Combi-Grav
Attack Bike w/ Multimelta
[200]

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Heavy:
Thunderfire Cannon
Drop Pod
[135]

Iron Hands Allied Detachment

HQ:
Captain
Artificer Armor, Shield Eternal, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[210]

Troops:
(5+1) Bike Squad
2x Grav Guns, CCWs, Combi-Grav
Attack Bike w/ Multimelta
[200]

[1995]

So, an alternative build with an Ironclad.

Any thoughts on that? I had to drop a CM to a Captain for it... worth it?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7040365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7040365.page GMT CCW w/heavy flamers).

Perhaps you could put both ICs with a single bike squad, and get 1 or 2 Ironclads in there? The Ironclads could press one side of the field while the dual CM bike unit could press the other?

The Tac squads are nice, the dual stormtalons are ok too. TFCs are always nice, but if it's gonna sit alone in the backfield it will probably be killed by the end of turn 2... you might not want to use it, or else double up on them.

Hope that helps!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7043023.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7043023.page GMT
I only own one TFC and for the price, I have a feeling it will stay that way. At least if I am going to buy an Ironclad, I get a badass looking dread for the price. TFCs are just so expensive!

Anyhow, I will tinker with a single Biker squad list (maybe adding in a Libby for Telepathy). Would net me a few more points to tinker with, but I doubt I could free up enough for a 2nd Ironclad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7043297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7043297.page GMT TH.

The axe is a great weapon and gives you an extra close combat attack over the hammer.

Alternatively, give one of the chapter masters an On init. weapon. No point having them both swinging at init. 1 and giving yourselves less options.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7043864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7043864.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7044187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7044187.page GMT
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HQ:
Chapter Master (Warlord)
Artificer Armor, Gorgon's Chain, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[245]

Elites:
Ironclad Dreadnought
Heavy Flamer, Meltagun
Drop Pod
[180]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(5) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[125]

(8+1) Bike Squad
2x Grav Guns, CCWs, Combi-Grav
Attack Bike w/ Multimelta
[263]

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Heavy:
Thunderfire Cannon
[100]

Iron Hands Allied Detachment
HQ:
Chapter Master
Artificer Armor, Shield Eternal, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[250]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

[1998]

Big brutal dual CM Bike squad along with a lot of the rest of the basics from prior lists. This list can get up to around 13 Objective Secured units or as few as 9, depending on if I combat squad stuff. That is still a good number! And all the Pods have IWND, which is hilarious. I opted out of having the CMs strike before I1, because Thunder Hammers are rough. I did consider one with a Lightning Claw or Power Lance or something, but just couldn't settle. Thoughts on that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7054475.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7054475.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7099525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7099525.page GMT CM, and all the bikers with their usual stuff.

Anyhow, thoughts?

Clan Raukaan CAD

HQ:
Chapter Master (Warlord)
Artificer Armor, Gorgon's Chain, Thunder Hammer, Bike
[245]

Elites:
Ironclad Dreadnought
Heavy Flamer, Meltagun
Drop Pod
[180]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

(10) Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[195]

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

Stormtalon
Skyhammer
[125]

(6) Assault Squad
2x Flamers, Meltabombs
Drop Pod
[117]

Heavy:
Thunderfire Cannon
[100]

[1477]

White Scars Allied Detachment

HQ:
Chapter Master
Artificer Armor, Shield Eternal, Power Fist, Bike
[245]

Troops:
(8+1) Bike Squad
2x Grav Guns, CCWs, Combi-Grav, Power Axe
Attack Bike w/ Multimelta
[278]

[523]

[2000]

I think Hit & Run gives them a nice edge instead of the FNP stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7124999.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/605284/7124999.page GMT