http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net AA and mobility, lots of guys in Valks and Vendettas. That makes it my job to stay on the board, hold the backfield, and push up a little to get some of the middle ground.

I was thinking something along the lines of:

HQ

1.

Tank Commander (Pask):
Punisher
Heavy bolter sponsons front and side.
Camo netting
Fire Barrels

Punisher
Heavy Bolters all round.

2.

Tank Commander:
Vanquisher
Camo netting
Lascannon

Vanquisher
Lascannon

Troops:

Veterans
3x Plasma Guns
Chimera

2 more of the same

Heavy Support:

2x Eradicators
Heavy Bolter front sponsons.


Anywhere near decent?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7037833.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7037833.page GMT AA units hanging around so he doesn't have to deal with it himself. Fire barrels is a good idea on Pask but I would change his buddy to an executioner if the points permit since the 5 plasma templates (3 + 2 sponsons) would be able to smash through any infantry/MC units.

If you want, you could straight up bring the AM formation from red waargh loaded with 5 vanquishers and a hydra. Then proceed to bring a secondary detachment of mech guard to take objectives. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7037947.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7037947.page GMT
But then, you take it for the preferred enemy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038405.page GMT MC/HI. Executioner buddy is a must.

Have you considered Wyverns they'll do far more damage from further away than the Eradicators.

Not a huge fan of Vanquishers in 7th. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038454.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038454.page GMT
HQ

Company Command Squad:
4x Plasma Gun
Chimera

Troops

2x Veteran Squad
2 Plasma guns
Chimera.

Steel Host:

Command Vanquisher:
Lascannon
Fire Barrels
Camo Netting

Squad Mate:
Vanquisher
Lascannon
Camo Netting

3x Executioner:
Plasma Cannon Sponsons
Camo Netting

Hydra.

List 2:

Tank Commander:
Pask Punisher
Lascannon
Multimeltas
Camo Netting
Fire Barrels

Executioner Squad mate
Plasma Cannon Sponsons

Tank Commander:
Vanquisher
Lascannon
Camo Netting
Fire Barrels

Vanquisher
Lascannon.

The same vets as the first list

3x Wyverns.

Either of these?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038585.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7038605.page GMT D6 hits won't really do much to the termys/other fast-moving assault troops which are about to power-something you]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039220.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039220.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039453.page GMT AT in your army. Consider a normal Leman Russ squadron for that Heavy Support slot. That way you can counter heavy Infantry and tanks in equal measure (Just take a few to ensure you hit with the battle cannon). If you want to keep the costs down I reccomend you don't take Heavy Bolter sponsons on Leman Russ as the Battle Cannon is an ordnance weapon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039486.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039486.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039666.page GMT AT (plus whatever his partner brings) if he wanted more going to Melta Vets with 1 or 2 squads would be the best way to get it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The LRBT is terrible and sponsons on it a waste. It is the least points efficient variant.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039885.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039885.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039964.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7039964.page GMT HPs alone to a Knight assuming he's in the 4++ facing (if not he kills it).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7040356.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7040356.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7040358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7040358.page GMT HBs for mass fire or you can go LC/MM/MM and just wreck shop with AP2 (paying a huge premium to do so though...). Ignoring the super expensive version there, I think there is a place for HB sponsons in Vanqs if you're spamming them. Maybe not all of them, but some. Easier at 1850, but doable in general.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041119.page GMT MM + LC would be very scary due to the sheer amount of ap 2 dakka you put out. Horrible for hordes, extremely awesome against MC and other. Not recommended because you can definitely find proper units to do what you need to do.

Fun nonetheless ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041461.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041712.page GMT AT inefficient compared to other options and they do not do bear the damage to infantry that Wyverns do. Deathstrikes are a much better choice than Manticores always, cheaper and can put out a devastating amount of hurt. Deathstrikes are also a great fear weapon forcing your opponent to spread even wider than he wants and making him think twice about firing Serpent shields.

But I think list 2 from the last selection will do what he needs it to. Obviously to improve I'd drop fire barrels and Chimeras down to Tauroxes and go grab more special weapons on the vets. But that is hardly major.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7041950.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7042019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7042019.page GMT AV is useful. If you are grabbing objectives (as 7th forces you to do from turn 1) the Taurox is cheaper and better in every way.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7042121.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606021/7042121.page GMT