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				<title>[1500ish] - Orks - in memory of Wazdakka</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Back when I started playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> and picked up an ork codex I fell in love with Wazdakka and the idea of an entirely Ork biker army. 6th edition came around and I took this as an opportunity to put together a 2000 point Ork biker list. Not just some wimpy wazdakka + a single unit of bikes army but an entirely bike army with only warbikers, deff koptas & nob bikers. It looks fantastic, plays like gak but I lose with style. The first and only tourney I took them to I got a surprisingly good painting score, my best ever, but I lost 4 of my 5 games, 3 of which were me being tabled.<br /> <br /> Now Orks have a new codex and I've been spending so much time drooling over mek guns that I haven't bothered to go over my biker army. What was once a 2k point list is now a 1500ish list, quite a huge difference with minimal loss in offensive capability barring nob bikers getting a kick to the teeth.<br /> <br /> So enough rambling here's an Ork biker list in the new codex thrown together to look similar to my old list using what's available in the new codex. I'm using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> Zhadsnark to get warbiker troops and the Ork horde detachment to get the third <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' - 150<br /> Painboy, Warbike - 75<br /> Big Mek, killsaw, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span>, Gazbag's Blitzbike - 155<br /> <br /> Elites: 5 x Nob Bikers w/Waaagh! Banner, 2xPK, 3xBC - 310<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 9 x Warbikers w/ Nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 202<br /> 9 x Warbikers w/ Nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 202<br /> 9 x Warbikers w/ Nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 202<br /> <br /> Fast:<br /> 3 x Deffkoptas w/ Rokkits - 90<br /> 3 x Deffkoptas w/ Rokkits - 90<br /> 3 x Deffkoptas w/ Rokkits - 90<br /> <br /> TOTAL: 1566<br /> <br /> Now I don't have a points value I want to aim for but that's not really the purpose of this. I'm kinda looking for a bit of discussion on how viable an Ork biker army at any points level will be. Is the Big mek as a third <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> worth it? Are the Nob Bikers worth it anymore or should I just swap them out for even more regular warbikers?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Madcat87]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll have to double check, but i am pretty sure that bikes cannot be taken as troops anymore, same as nobs and meganobs can't be taken as troops now.<br /> <br /> Hold up, i just read the first part you wrote, disregard my previous statement ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:18:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ork Teen]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ With Zhadsnark Bikers can be troops, but the big question is: will they allow you to field Zhadsnark?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:39:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mr.T]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The people I play in my area, those that allow <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> are in the majority. Tourneys are about 50/50.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:58:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Madcat87]]></author>
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				<title>[1500ish] - Orks - in memory of Wazdakka</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is the note from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>:<br /> <br /> "Zhadsnark ‘Da Rippa’ may be included as part of an army <br /> selected from Codex: Orks as a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice."<br /> <br /> And after email exchange with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> team I was advised to use him freely as per <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>, until new edition of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> comes out.<br /> <br /> Cheers<br /> <br /> <br /> /<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> link:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/Dred_Mob.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.forgeworld.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/Dred_Mob.pdf</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:58:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ boredbeard]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ List looks pretty good.<br /> <br /> Anyone who doesn't support <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> doesn't support <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> since the rules for them are both publications of Games Workshop, and as such useable based on the rules for them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:59:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awfeel]]></author>
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