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Some legions do have better rules than others, but if you use their rite of war then you start to see the differences between each one. But in the long run, the 30k armies are pretty balanced, especially against each other.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/610258/7114828.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/610258/7114828.page GMT [Horus Heresy] 30k Balance
 welshhoppo wrote:
But in the long run, the 30k armies are pretty balanced, especially against each other.


Keep seeing people say this. It just makes me think (even more so) that GW have a chance here to focus on a more epic, balanced version of the game we are already interested in. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/610258/7114868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/610258/7114868.page GMT [Horus Heresy] 30k Balance
 Aims wrote:
 welshhoppo wrote:
But in the long run, the 30k armies are pretty balanced, especially against each other.


Keep seeing people say this. It just makes me think (even more so) that GW have a chance here to focus on a more epic, balanced version of the game we are already interested in.


Well to be fair, when you only have one army to choose from, its pretty hard to be unbalanced. Even GW couldn't mess that up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/610258/7114919.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/610258/7114919.page GMT [Horus Heresy] 30k Balance
I feel that some of the characters in the later books are quite a bit better than those in HH: Betrayal.

For example if you compare Abaddon (again, biased) with the Salamander's Nomus Rhy'tan or Sigismund, for very similar points there is, in my opinion, a pretty sizable disparity.

Firstly they are all rocking a 2+, 4++ save with Fearless (In Rhy'tan's case, Zealot) and some minor stat changes with points costs for Abaddon and Rhy'tan being the same and Sigismund being 15 points more. The three also have the Master of the Legion special rule.

Where they separate is that both Rhy'tan and Sigismund have Eternal Warrior. They both also have an at Initiative +2S AP2 Two Handed Weapon. Rhy'tan's weapon also has Armourbane and Fleshbane while Sigismund has a number of bonuses to fighting in close combat but is required to challenge.
Abaddon on the other hand can take a Powersword (at the lose of his Combi Bolter) which would also allow him to take advantage of the Merciless Fighters rule or use his MC-Powerfist which would disallow his use of Merciless Fighters.

Now I can kind of see where they are going with Abaddon, as he is allowed to Deep Strike with a squad of Terminators without the need for a specific Rite of War which can be quite powerful (Coupled with the mishap reroll), particularly when paired with the Tip of the Spear rule for the SoH. However it is kind of annoying to see those EW CC monsters.


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