<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Walkers getting stomp"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Walkers getting stomp CC. A dreadnought only swinging twice, when in lore they seem to be CC machines (literally )
So I was playing around with the idea of giving walkers a toned down variation of stomp.
Standard walkers (dreadnoughts, sentinels and whatnot) will have Stomp. Just like normal stomp, you place it and roll a dice, 1 is nothing 2-5 is normal, 6 is special. It is a single stomp attack, small blast, that is resolved at half base strength (Rounding down? usually 3) and AP5. Just like the big boy stomp but worse. On a 6, it is base strength and AP3.
I also think a smaller version of the Multi Legged Terror rule could be implemented for walkers with too many limbs, mainly soul grinders and defilers. Soul grinders have 6 legs and 2 arms. They would have stomp(2)
Due to their massive size, Monstrous creatures and other walkers are immune to stomp.

Mainly this is because I feel that a walker, in any case, shouldn't have issue just walking through infantry. Even a sentinel should be able to walk through/step on terminators.

Any thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155684.page GMT Re:Walkers getting stomp http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155716.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
Could also represent something like a dreadnought spinning on its torso.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155783.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155783.page GMT Walkers getting stomp should be good against hordes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7155865.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
 DanielBeaver wrote:
I feel like it would be better represented by giving them the Rampage special rule. Some of the walkers don't feel particularly "stompy", but you could certainly see them throwing their weight around in a fight (like the Dreadnought spinning in Dawn of War). They feel like they should be good against hordes.


They aren't quite good at anything else atm, so that would not really make them over powered.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7157575.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7157575.page GMT Walkers getting stomp http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7170557.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7170557.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
Think about mass index more than just table area.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7170617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7170617.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
This pic is a pretty good one to show off the size of the scorpion
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_-XHumC_BRk/UfZ4pZgr6kI/AAAAAAAAAb4/Hh5lC0mxNmI/s1600/CSM_snapshot_2013-7-29.jpg

It is because the scorpion, and titans are so big that they get stomp, but with the knight being much smaller than quite a bit of models with stomp, it doesn't seem too far fetched that a smaller version of stomp be added to walkers. Some walkers would just be better, like soul grinders and defilers, where sentinels would have a little baby stomp. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7178362.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7178362.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
maybe give models stomp(x) where x is the number of stomps.

Models like the reaver/scorpion/revanent/stompa would get stomp(3) other models like knight / gorkanauts might get stomp(2) and models like triarch / soulgrinder / defiler would get stomp(1), + any stomps they get from special rules which give more stomps.

there would probably need to be some slight points adjustments to various models, mostly +, in the case of imperial knights a - in cost.

If dreadnaughts aren't getting stomp I cant really see sentinels getting a stomp attack.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7178382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7178382.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
I would rather have a lesser stomp table for standard walkers. I don't really feel that a soul grinder should be able to auto remove models with the current stomp. They would get stomp 2 or 3, while sentinels would have stomp 1, gorkanoughts would get 2 or 3 as well. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7178706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7178706.page GMT Walkers getting stomp MCs stomping like they do in Fantasy. Just rename the super heavy/GC one to Thunderstomp and we're good to go.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7179243.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7179243.page GMT Walkers getting stomp MCs so long as it didn't affect other MCs and Walkers. Maybe give Walkers and MCs something simple like bonus attacks against each other?

Otherwise same rules as Stomp is right now against all other targets, like infantry. Squish! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7180708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7180708.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
 GoliothOnline wrote:
I wouldn't mind Stomp on walkers and MCs so long as it didn't affect other MCs and Walkers. Maybe give Walkers and MCs something simple like bonus attacks against each other?

In Fantasy things with Stomp can't be stomped. They can be Thunderstomped though (models with Thunderstomp also can't be stomped or Thunderstomped). That pretty much clears that issue up. I don't know about giving them bonus attacks against each other though. It doesn't really feel needed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7180831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7180831.page GMT Walkers getting stomp
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 GoliothOnline wrote:
I wouldn't mind Stomp on walkers and MCs so long as it didn't affect other MCs and Walkers. Maybe give Walkers and MCs something simple like bonus attacks against each other?

In Fantasy things with Stomp can't be stomped. They can be Thunderstomped though (models with Thunderstomp also can't be stomped or Thunderstomped). That pretty much clears that issue up. I don't know about giving them bonus attacks against each other though. It doesn't really feel needed.


I like that notion. Basically they can get throwmped by things bigger than themselves (IE walkers cant stomp walkers, but a Gargantuan can Thunderstomp / blitz him, just not anther Gargant/SH) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181086.page GMT Re:Walkers getting stomp
Alternatively, just fix it based on the unit's base number of attacks.

I thnk the reason run-of-the-mill Walkers lack Stomp is simply to keep things running smoothly as people often field several of them - sometimes even in groups - that might make things complicated to resolve. Keep things simple, basically.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181167.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181167.page GMT Re:Walkers getting stomp
mr. peasant wrote:
What about giving Walkers a variant of Hammer of Wrath (a la Chariots)? For instance, describe it as "Hammer of Wrath X"; with the Walker "dealing X extra, unmodified Srength 6 hits against the model at Initiative 10"?So for instance, Sentinels deal 1 extra hit while Dreadnaughts deal 2?

Alternatively, just fix it based on the unit's base number of attacks.

I thnk the reason run-of-the-mill Walkers lack Stomp is simply to keep things running smoothly as people often field several of them - sometimes even in groups - that might make things complicated to resolve. Keep things simple, basically.

Fantasy's stomp isn't that hard to resolve last I recall: it's bonus attacks at the end of the combat, before resolution. Roll a die, get bonus attacks, kill things. Easy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181585.page GMT Re:Walkers getting stomp
 ClockworkZion wrote:
mr. peasant wrote:
What about giving Walkers a variant of Hammer of Wrath (a la Chariots)? For instance, describe it as "Hammer of Wrath X"; with the Walker "dealing X extra, unmodified Srength 6 hits against the model at Initiative 10"?So for instance, Sentinels deal 1 extra hit while Dreadnaughts deal 2?

Alternatively, just fix it based on the unit's base number of attacks.

I thnk the reason run-of-the-mill Walkers lack Stomp is simply to keep things running smoothly as people often field several of them - sometimes even in groups - that might make things complicated to resolve. Keep things simple, basically.

Fantasy's stomp isn't that hard to resolve last I recall: it's bonus attacks at the end of the combat, before resolution. Roll a die, get bonus attacks, kill things. Easy.


Yerp. Sounds pretty straightforward to me, if that's the case.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/612532/7181621.page GMT