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I'm being sued by one company for the money.

I work a part-time job with about 27 hours a week at minimum wage. I make so little money my wages can't be garnished. I also make too much for food stamps in my state.

Is there a point to continuing this? Most days, I don't see the point anymore. I'm going to be stuck barely getting by for months, and my credit is so bad I'll never get a second job that pays more than minimum wage- I'll never get a job with any company that checks credit history.

I have no where to go.

What can I do?
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Times are tough, can you talk with someone regarding your debt? Do you have any disabilities that can help pay your debt or lower your monthly payments? There are organizations that help with such matters.

What's your degree in? are you able to go back to school to further your education in a field that is fruitful?

Have you consider looking into a state job if there are not in state hiring freezes where you are at? State jobs generally pay fairly well.

what;s your area like? industry, schools, hospitals?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218652.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218652.page GMT Re:Is suicide that bad an option?
I live in Indiana. The economy is miserable. I have no money to move with.

I have no prayer of a job with the state. My credit sucks. My job prospects die there with any company that checks credit history. I couldn't get McDonald's to fething hire me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218657.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218657.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
College debt is tough, especially when you try to pay it off with a crap job, but there are ways to do it. Check with your local office to see if there are programs out there to assist you. Even your previous school may be able to help you out.

Also, some churches often do food donations once or twice a month, strictly on a no questions asked basis. They don't ask your income or anything, mainly how many people are in your household and provide you with milk, eggs, produce, bread, things like that based on your household number.

Not every job checks credit. Call centers can be better paying jobs when your options are limited. Try to get your resume in order, especially references, and hit them up. Most call centers start at $9-10 an hour, and can go up. It ain't hollywood, but is a step above flipping burgers.

Life is rough. It isn't fair. Depression is something everyone struggles with somewhat, either themselves or someone they know. You may be able to find a support group either through church if you're religious or your local community center. There are also helplines for when you are feeling really down.

Keep fighting the good fight. It may look pointless right now, but it's worth it to fight til the better end. Best of luck to you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218658.page GMT Re:Is suicide that bad an option?
If you're serious about this you need to seek help immediately. Depression and suicidal thoughts are major problems that need offline attention. You wouldn't post a forum thread about how you just got shot and are bleeding to death, you'd call 911. Treat suicide the same way.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218659.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
 jreilly89 wrote:
Call centers can be better paying jobs when your options are limited. Try to get your resume in order, especially references, and hit them up. Most call centers start at $9-10 an hour, and can go up. It ain't hollywood, but is a step above flipping burgers..


I spent two years working at the (formerly) IBM call center in Daleville.

I can't handle weekly life without alcohol as a result.

Call center work is stressful. It's people screaming at you, day in and day out, because they dropped their iPhone and that's your fault. They didn't pay enough over the year to the Fed and it's your fault they owe money to the IRS.

Flipping burgers isn't glamorous, but no one says they want to kill you because their burger has pickles and it shouldn't have. At least, that doesn't happen every few days flipping burgers.



For anyone wondering, the last time I sought attention for suicidal thoughts, I got a $6,000 hospital bill and no way to pay it.

There is no help from the medical community- you get stuck in a room for three days and your situation just gets worse.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218672.page GMT Re:Is suicide that bad an option? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218678.page GMT Re:Is suicide that bad an option?
A foot injury kept me from the Marines three weeks from graduating boot camp. College was six byears of trying and failing to find something to replace that, interrupted by two suicide attempts, to no avail.

I've just been dragging my family and friends down, and down, and down...picking up new friends for a time, them figuring out where I'm headed, and new ones taking their place.

I feel guilty thinking of what I'm doing to my family. Isn't a few moments of agony better than a lifetime of ache?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218687.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
I'm not sure on the job situation in the US, but here "tradeys" like plumbers apprentice with a higher wage than university graduates. Just because college didn't work out for you, doesn't mean there are no decent jobs you can get - technical colleges can give you a good set of skills in many industries for well paying jobs. It may not be glamorous, but you might be able to find something you can be content or even happy with. You might need to soldier on in minimum wage while you get some skills, but it's doable and far better than the alternative.

/hug]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218692.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218692.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
 Yonan wrote:
Damn man, I feel for you. It doesn't sound like you have any support available to help you through it. All I can say is, if you think your friends and family would prefer you kill yourself than continue as is and try to improve, you're vastly mistaken. You can eventually find yourself out of the hole you're in - you can never undo suicide, that scar will be with them forever.

I'm not sure on the job situation in the US, but here "tradeys" like plumbers apprentice with a higher wage than university graduates. Just because college didn't work out for you, doesn't mean there are no decent jobs you can get - technical colleges can give you a good set of skills in many industries for well paying jobs. It may not be glamorous, but you might be able to find something you can be content or even happy with. You might need to soldier on in minimum wage while you get some skills, but it's doable and far better than the alternative.

/hug


I'd be content if I could get 40 hours a week at minimum wage. I can't.

Technical colleges require money to attend- money I don't have. There're a lot of people ten years younger than myself looking for apprenticeships- people assumed to be more willing to listen to instruction and learn.

My mom's oldest brother killed himself, and no one followed suit. No one else gave in. If asked, it's easy to assume what they'd say, but if they thought about never having to deal with me again?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218710.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
I went through some rough patches and I'm still fighting to find my place. What helps is never allowing the world to win. No matter how bad it gets you have to defy it.

If you can make it all the way to the end Marine Corps boot camp then you are one hell of a guy. My suggestion is to try the Navy or the Army/National Guard. Jump back on that horse and go for it. Or maybe sign up for the Peace Corps and give the down and out of the world a little more hope with your hard work.

Self death is never an answer. I've seen the 1st and 2nd order of effects and it is horrible. The pain it causes others is very deep.

You need to push forward because you only have so much time on this plane and you never know how it will all play out. You always have the potential to do or be some one amazing or special. Many have dragged their souls threw the dirt only you come out golden at the end.

I implore you to do the very same.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218746.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
 BrotherGecko wrote:
First of all Life doesn't get that victory over you ever.

I went through some rough patches and I'm still fighting to find my place. What helps is never allowing the world to win. No matter how bad it gets you have to defy it.

If you can make it all the way to the end Marine Corps boot camp then you are one hell of a guy. My suggestion is to try the Navy or the Army/National Guard. Jump back on that horse and go for it. Or maybe sign up for the Peace Corps and give the down and out of the world a little more hope with your hard work.

Self death is never an answer. I've seen the 1st and 2nd order of effects and it is horrible. The pain it causes others is very deep.

You need to push forward because you only have so much time on this plane and you never know how it will all play out. You always have the potential to do or be some one amazing or special. Many have dragged their souls threw the dirt only you come out golden at the end.

I implore you to do the very same.


RE-3P re-entry code. I'm not going back in without a real shooting war- China or Russia, nor Iraq, and that assumes I get away with lying about my medical history. I tried going back down that road before.

The Peace Corps is flooded with volunteers better qualified than myself.

If I went to DC and lit myself on fire, I'd make a difference- not for myself, but for others. People would see my desperation, and even if they didn't feel empathy, they'd feel guilt for what hundreds of thousands of people like me are going through.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218754.page GMT Re:Is suicide that bad an option?
The responses above have encouraged you to seek help from others better placed to give it.

The Samaritans is a good place to start. They will listen to whatever you need to tell.

http://www.samaritansusa.org/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218818.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
The Samaritans here in the UK probably did not outright save my life, but I reached out to them and they helped me catch myself at a time when I was spiraling towards more and more thoughts of suicide. I avoided too much doctor contact because although the doctors here are free, seeking treatment for depression goes on your record. HOWEVER, if you seek that treatment more directly via charities rather than going via a doctor, it can be done without any official records being put on your file.

I've been improving for 18 months, and though the first 6 months of "recovery" were hell I feel as if I have made it. I had a flashback due to a nightmare once, but in general, life feels worth it again. Although that was the only time I have been suicidal, I have had other episodes of depression, and I am sure there will be more, but I have forced myself to seek help each time.

Life gets better.

http://www.afsp.org/
http://www.samaritansusa.org/
Even if you are not religious, there are plenty of churches who want to help you. Just try to find one that won't try to convert you at the same time. If they really want to do that, they should do it after you are better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218910.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218910.page GMT Re:Is suicide that bad an option?
Do as some other poster's have said and call the US branch of the Samaritans. They will help you through everything and hopefully out the other side. Good luck. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/615919/7218927.page GMT Is suicide that bad an option?
Really think this through. I’d strongly recommend going to the links KK and Fifty put up. See if there are any local help groups. Don’t take the easy way out, life is not a game, you have far more options than the ones you see now.
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