<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game? IGOUGO paradigm in 40k doesn't break the game too much, no?

Instead of, "I move, shoot, assault, you move shoot, assault," It can be more like, "I move, you move, I shoot, etc..."

Will that bring up any other conflicts with rules? are there any USRs, or obscure parts of the 40k rulebook that will create singularities in my basement if I try this?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235581.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235581.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game? GW's Lord of the Rings game before trying this; the turn order there is set up this way. Nothing is going to explode immediately, off the top of my head.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235591.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235663.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game? LotR also came with a "priority" system that forced players to switch who was acting first, it didn't have the same person taking their phase first all game. That'd be pretty necessary.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7235728.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game? 40k would be activation points.

If you use standard activation method though, it would either favor high leadership armies, or MSU greatly.

The only way I can see it working for 40k would be using unit point cost and activation points to keep it balanced.

Example being: Players take turn activating units. Each turn you get for example 19 activation points in an 1850 game (1 point per 100 points rounded up). If a unit costs 300+ points it takes 4 activation points to move/shoot/assault. You can use as many points as you want (up to half at once) then your opponent gets to use the same number of points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7237548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7237548.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game? 40k's initiatives, but it was pretty interesting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7240022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7240022.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game? 40k would need some sort of way to manipulate turn order like that, otherwise whoever is first in the turn queue would be at a disadvantage.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7240041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7240041.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game?
 DanielBeaver wrote:
X-Wing does that with pilot experience. Newb pilots move first, shoot last, Vets move last, shoot first. 40k would need some sort of way to manipulate turn order like that, otherwise whoever is first in the turn queue would be at a disadvantage.


That sounds like a good idea, but what do I base it off of? points invested in the unit? So, units worth a lot of points move last, charge first and cheap units move first and charge last?

It could be based on a stat, but someone tried doing that on dakka (I think) and someone pointed out that it would unbalance the game because WS and Initiative aren't balanced for being that important, and Leadership makes no sense. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7244415.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7244415.page GMT Would Breaking up Turns Also Break the Game?
Individual units get their whole turn at once (essentially), but the two players take turns activating units.
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 Powerfisting wrote:
 DanielBeaver wrote:
X-Wing does that with pilot experience. Newb pilots move first, shoot last, Vets move last, shoot first. 40k would need some sort of way to manipulate turn order like that, otherwise whoever is first in the turn queue would be at a disadvantage.


That sounds like a good idea, but what do I base it off of? points invested in the unit? So, units worth a lot of points move last, charge first and cheap units move first and charge last?

It could be based on a stat, but someone tried doing that on dakka (I think) and someone pointed out that it would unbalance the game because WS and Initiative aren't balanced for being that important, and Leadership makes no sense.


Only downside to that is trying to keep track of unit worth. And as it loses models, does its overall worth become less, meaning it now gets to move up in the cue?

It would suck for me and my opponent to have to make sure we know exactly how much our units cost (And as an Ork player...I bring a lot of units), as well as keep track of their losses and keeping the 'initiative' cue up to date for future turns. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7244840.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/616772/7244840.page GMT