Kyck24 wrote:
Yeah i do something similar too but i combat sqaud my purifiers and put my lib with the other squad and port both of them in and now i have extra cleansing flames. And instead of psycannons i use flamers so they can still be an assult threat and im not wasting draigo just as a goi guy.

 Goldphish wrote:
I thought the changes to psycannons made them terrible on non terminators? Why not just run around with terminators / paladins?

The Ivory Disaster wrote:
Envihon you know that you can't assault if you shoot salvo weapons, right?

It's not a big deal to some people. I often have a squad or two that, in spite of having amazing force weapons and a pretty decent armor save (and being able to sweep!) I just want to keep back, camp objectives, or simply shoot. The purifiers the OP is talking about won't be able to charge on the turn they use Gate of Infinity anyway but they'll have to forgo their psycannon shooting the following turn(s) if they want to assault, and that's what's bumming people out.

 ductvader wrote:
THIS...is why I love an endurance libby in my GKs.

As opposed to many allies, it just makes them feel more GK-like.

And with my Sentinels Libby he is really used for giving more charges to the army as a whole.

 ductvader wrote:
Yup

 GKTiberius wrote:
In larger lists I use a Draigo death star deep striking turn one into the back field while my purifier squads churn up the field in rhinos. sort of like a hammer and anvil thing The reason for this is with enough 2+ distraction in a vital area the metal boxes make it at least close to where they need to go. I honestly think the role of non deep striking gk's in this codex are to provide a combined arms assault. If you deep strike shield less terminators into the back field they will die by turn 3 if the opponent focuses his army on them, but if you have 2 squads of purifiers rolling up, flame novaing stuff they will have to at least split their focus. Again this is just how i play, and i have been moderately successful with that build.

Disclaimer: The following rant is just my opinion, and as such should be taken not as an indictment of other players, but as an observation about the nature of us as players and this hobby we all share.

On an unrelated note, I understand it is competitive but i honestly think it is a travesty to ally space wolves and grey knights just for drop pod access. In all honesty the idea of allying anything other than two codex space marine chapters and using each other's vehicles is just flat out wrong. The armies are designed in codex to do specific things, and exploiting the abilities of another codex in the form of allies specifically for things that your army cannot do in my opinion takes a lot away from the game. specifically allying in another faction to take advantage of specific vehicles or abilities intended to be used by the original force, not the army the vehicles or abilities belong to is abuse of the highest order. If you want to play grey knights but like bike marines then ally in some white scars. That is great because that is what the ally rules are intended for. But to ally in a minimum group of wolves to take FA drop pods for your GK purifiers is wrong. It is like hanging out with someone just to use them for their possessions. if you want to go play with drop pods and PAMEQ deep strike rules, go play vanilla marines. if you want terminators, force sword wielding PAMEQ's and more psykers you can shake a custodes spear at play grey knights.

It makes no sense for Grey Knights to not have access to one of the most efficient and well used means of getting troops to the battlefield (drop pod).

 ductvader wrote:
but purifiers aren't going to touch the warp.

 GKTiberius wrote:

It makes no sense for Grey Knights to not have access to one of the most efficient and well used means of getting troops to the battlefield (drop pod).

Fluff: If they grey knights are not supposed to leave a trace behind because they officially don't exist then they wouldn't use drop pods, which they would have to leave behind. The regular troops, which are supposed to be like everyone else's elites, deep strike because of the fact that terminator armor deep strikes. purifiers wear power armor which cannot survive deep strike teleportation. Also purifiers, in the fluff, are elite warriors meant to support the main force, that is why they are separate and not part of any of the 8 brotherhoods.

 ductvader wrote:
To be fair, Strikers are sitting in a giant Teleportation room in a ship for the purposes of coming down, it has nothing to do with the armor...just GK perceived battlefield roles.

If you're going to just show up...Strike, Intercept, Terminate.

If you're going to Purify...Land Raiders and Ravens.

(I hate Rhino Chassis...they are so anti GK it isn't even funny)